<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Am I the only person who finds it difficult to follow a thread in a mailing list where postings get repeated continuously as the thread is replied to (let alone our tendency to post across several lists - mea culpa)?<div><br></div><div>Dare I suggest that we seek a simpler and clearer forum for this discussion? I’m not suggesting abandoning the lists just using a better tool for a discussion in which we want to engage a lot of people.<br><div>
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<br><div><div>On 19 Sep 2014, at 02:37, Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I would agree on that, to start in the wiki. But think, if we want to<br>get some input from the charter members, it should be more active and<br>structured effort - therefore I propose continue then with google<br>forms<br><br>Another question: of course, I'm talking about goals and OSGeo future,<br>but FOSS4G is one of OSGeo's most important event, it has "some"<br>functions, can be decide who it should be organised without knowing,<br>what we want to do?<br><br>J<br><br>2014-09-19 8:32 GMT+02:00 Bart van den Eijnden <<a href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl">bartvde@osgis.nl</a>>:<br><blockquote type="cite">Hey Jachym,<br><br>wasn't Cameron referring specifically to what options we have to<br>"professionalize" FOSS4G organising?<br><br>And you were talking more about OSGeo's goals etc. ?<br><br>Also, I think it makes sense to create some content in a Wiki first, and use<br>that content to create a questionnaire. It's hard to create a good<br>questionnaire from scratch if the solutions haven't been discussed in detail<br>and worked on by multiple people IMHO.<br><br>Best regards,<br>Bart<br><br>On 19 Sep 2014, at 08:02, Jachym Cepicky <<a href="mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.com">jachym.cepicky@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>I proposed to prepare Google forms for that in other thread. Could have IMHO<br>more valuable output<br><br>?<br><br>J<br><br>Send from cellphone<br><br>--<br>Jachym Cepicky<br>e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com<br>URL: <a href="http://les-ejk.cz">http://les-ejk.cz</a><br>GPG: <a href="http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp">http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp</a><br><br>Give your code freedom with PyWPS -<a href="http://pywps.wald.intevation.org">http://pywps.wald.intevation.org</a><br><br>On Sep 19, 2014 3:38 AM, "Cameron Shorter" <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>><br>wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>I'll volunteer to start a wiki collating options for the FOSS4G future,<br>with sections that people can add comments into.<br>I should have something up for review and contributions within 24 hours.<br><br>On 18/09/2014 7:04 PM, Maria Antonia Brovelli wrote:<br><br>Dear All<br>I agree completely with Margherita. The most of people are asking<br>themselves what it is happening.<br>Please who was and is involved, please write the history of what has<br>happened on a wiki page. When the plot is finalised the charter members<br>vote.<br>Maria<br><br><br><br>Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli<br>Vice Rector for Como Campus - Politecnico di Milano<br><br>Public Participation GIS: a FOSS architecture enabling field-data<br>collection<br><br><a href="http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17538947.2014.887150#.UwPVuIVnibF">http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17538947.2014.887150#.UwPVuIVnibF</a><br><br><br><br>ISPRS WG IV/5 "Web and Cloud Based Geospatial Services and Applications" -<br>Co-chair - OSGeo Charter Member - ICA - OSGeo Advisory Board Member - SIFET<br>Scientific Commitee Member<br><br><br><br>Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO (ITALIA)<br>Tel. +39-031-3327336 - Mob. +39-328-0023867 - fax. +39-031-3327321<br>e-mail1: maria.brovelli@polimi.it<br>e-mail2: prorettrice@como.polimi.it<br><br><br><br>________________________________<br>Da: discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org <discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org> per<br>conto di Margherita Di Leo <diregola@gmail.com><br>Inviato: giovedě 18 settembre 2014 10.13<br>A: Jachym Cepicky<br>Cc: <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>; conference; osgeo-board List; Steven<br>Feldman<br>Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Polling charter members<br><br>Dear All,<br><br>On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Jachym Cepicky<br><jachym.cepicky@gmail.com> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Just noting,<br><br>discussion about relationship between LocationTech and OSGeo is here<br>since 2012 (IIRC). That many people did not pain attention to it<br>(actually including myself up to certain time), is not fault of OSGeo<br>.. or LocationTech.<br><br>It's just actually boring topic. We are community of (mostly)<br>developers and users of FOSS4G (not conference, but software in this<br>case). This sounds like politics .. who would pay attention? So, now<br>we are here, things are happening, we can finally talk to whole<br>community, because of this IMHO *is* important topic - two big<br>organisations are trying to find a way, how to cooperate in the future<br>for better free and open source software for geospatial! This is good.<br>If for nothing else, then for clarifying OSGeo's position.<br><br></blockquote><br>If anyone is wondering why most charter members remained silent about the<br>topic, here i can offer my 2 cents..<br>It is true that this is a long story, but it's hard to find all the<br>elements needed for judgement. I'd ask those that have personally followed<br>the steps, to kindly fill a wiki page with the most important facts. Another<br>thing is that, for those that couldn't make it at FOSS4G, it is (I believe)<br>not easy to understand on what exactly the community of charter members is<br>being called to express their opinion. What does it mean "to cooperate" and<br>what does it imply for the organizations involved? Is it a case by case<br>cooperation what you're talking about? why it looks like is the FOSS4G event<br>at stake here?<br><br>Thanks for any pointers<br><br><br>--<br>Best regards,<br><br>Dr. Margherita DI LEO<br>Scientific / technical project officer<br><br>European Commission - DG JRC<br>Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES)<br>Via Fermi, 2749<br>I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261<br><br>Tel. +39 0332 78 3600<br>margherita.di-leo@jrc.ec.europa.eu<br><br>Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may not<br>in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official position of the<br>European Commission.<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Discuss mailing list<br>Discuss@lists.osgeo.org<br>http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss<br><br><br><br>--<br>Cameron Shorter,<br>Software and Data Solutions Manager<br>LISAsoft<br>Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,<br>26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009<br><br>P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099<br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>Discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss<br><br><br></blockquote><br><br><br>-- <br>Jachym Cepicky<br>e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com<br>URL: <a href="http://les-ejk.cz">http://les-ejk.cz</a><br>GPG: <a href="http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp">http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp</a><br><br>Give your code freedom with PyWPS - <a href="http://pywps.wald.intevation.org">http://pywps.wald.intevation.org</a><br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>