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    Ok, first draft of wiki page is here:<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/09/2014 6:14 pm, Steven Feldman
      wrote:<br>
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      Am I the only person who finds it difficult to follow a thread in
      a mailing list where postings get repeated continuously as the
      thread is replied to (let alone our tendency to post across
      several lists - mea culpa)?
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      <div>Dare I suggest that we seek a simpler and clearer forum for
        this discussion? I’m not suggesting abandoning the lists just
        using a better tool for a discussion in which we want to engage
        a lot of people.<br>
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          <div>On 19 Sep 2014, at 02:37, Cameron Shorter <<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
            wrote:</div>
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          <blockquote type="cite">I would agree on that, to start in the
            wiki. But think, if we want to<br>
            get some input from the charter members, it should be more
            active and<br>
            structured effort - therefore I propose continue then with
            google<br>
            forms<br>
            <br>
            Another question: of course, I'm talking about goals and
            OSGeo future,<br>
            but FOSS4G is one of OSGeo's most important event, it has
            "some"<br>
            functions, can be decide who it should be organised without
            knowing,<br>
            what we want to do?<br>
            <br>
            J<br>
            <br>
            2014-09-19 8:32 GMT+02:00 Bart van den Eijnden <<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl">bartvde@osgis.nl</a>>:<br>
            <blockquote type="cite">Hey Jachym,<br>
              <br>
              wasn't Cameron referring specifically to what options we
              have to<br>
              "professionalize" FOSS4G organising?<br>
              <br>
              And you were talking more about OSGeo's goals etc. ?<br>
              <br>
              Also, I think it makes sense to create some content in a
              Wiki first, and use<br>
              that content to create a questionnaire. It's hard to
              create a good<br>
              questionnaire from scratch if the solutions haven't been
              discussed in detail<br>
              and worked on by multiple people IMHO.<br>
              <br>
              Best regards,<br>
              Bart<br>
              <br>
              On 19 Sep 2014, at 08:02, Jachym Cepicky <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.com">jachym.cepicky@gmail.com</a>>
              wrote:<br>
              <br>
              I proposed to prepare Google forms for that in other
              thread. Could have IMHO<br>
              more valuable output<br>
              <br>
              ?<br>
              <br>
              J<br>
              <br>
              Send from cellphone<br>
              <br>
              --<br>
              Jachym Cepicky<br>
              e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com<br>
              URL: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://les-ejk.cz">http://les-ejk.cz</a><br>
              GPG: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp">http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp</a><br>
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              On Sep 19, 2014 3:38 AM, "Cameron Shorter" <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>><br>
              wrote:<br>
              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                I'll volunteer to start a wiki collating options for the
                FOSS4G future,<br>
                with sections that people can add comments into.<br>
                I should have something up for review and contributions
                within 24 hours.<br>
                <br>
                On 18/09/2014 7:04 PM, Maria Antonia Brovelli wrote:<br>
                <br>
                Dear All<br>
                I agree completely with Margherita. The most of people
                are asking<br>
                themselves what it is happening.<br>
                Please who was and is involved, please write the history
                of what has<br>
                happened on a wiki page. When the plot is finalised the
                charter members<br>
                vote.<br>
                Maria<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
                Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli<br>
                Vice Rector for Como Campus - Politecnico di Milano<br>
                <br>
                Public Participation GIS: a FOSS architecture enabling
                field-data<br>
                collection<br>
                <br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17538947.2014.887150#.UwPVuIVnibF">http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17538947.2014.887150#.UwPVuIVnibF</a><br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
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                and Applications" -<br>
                Co-chair - OSGeo Charter Member - ICA - OSGeo Advisory
                Board Member - SIFET<br>
                Scientific Commitee Member<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
                Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO (ITALIA)<br>
                Tel. +39-031-3327336 - Mob. +39-328-0023867 - fax.
                +39-031-3327321<br>
                e-mail1: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a><br>
                e-mail2: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:prorettrice@como.polimi.it">prorettrice@como.polimi.it</a><br>
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                ________________________________<br>
                Da: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"><discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org></a> per<br>
                conto di Margherita Di Leo <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:diregola@gmail.com"><diregola@gmail.com></a><br>
                Inviato: giovedě 18 settembre 2014 10.13<br>
                A: Jachym Cepicky<br>
                Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org"><discuss@lists.osgeo.org></a>; conference;
                osgeo-board List; Steven<br>
                Feldman<br>
                Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Polling charter
                members<br>
                <br>
                Dear All,<br>
                <br>
                On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Jachym Cepicky<br>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.com"><jachym.cepicky@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
                <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                  Just noting,<br>
                  <br>
                  discussion about relationship between LocationTech and
                  OSGeo is here<br>
                  since 2012 (IIRC). That many people did not pain
                  attention to it<br>
                  (actually including myself up to certain time), is not
                  fault of OSGeo<br>
                  .. or LocationTech.<br>
                  <br>
                  It's just actually boring topic. We are community of
                  (mostly)<br>
                  developers and users of FOSS4G (not conference, but
                  software in this<br>
                  case). This sounds like politics .. who would pay
                  attention? So, now<br>
                  we are here, things are happening, we can finally talk
                  to whole<br>
                  community, because of this IMHO *is* important topic -
                  two big<br>
                  organisations are trying to find a way, how to
                  cooperate in the future<br>
                  for better free and open source software for
                  geospatial! This is good.<br>
                  If for nothing else, then for clarifying OSGeo's
                  position.<br>
                  <br>
                </blockquote>
                <br>
                If anyone is wondering why most charter members remained
                silent about the<br>
                topic, here i can offer my 2 cents..<br>
                It is true that this is a long story, but it's hard to
                find all the<br>
                elements needed for judgement. I'd ask those that have
                personally followed<br>
                the steps, to kindly fill a wiki page with the most
                important facts. Another<br>
                thing is that, for those that couldn't make it at
                FOSS4G, it is (I believe)<br>
                not easy to understand on what exactly the community of
                charter members is<br>
                being called to express their opinion. What does it mean
                "to cooperate" and<br>
                what does it imply for the organizations involved? Is it
                a case by case<br>
                cooperation what you're talking about? why it looks like
                is the FOSS4G event<br>
                at stake here?<br>
                <br>
                Thanks for any pointers<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                --<br>
                Best regards,<br>
                <br>
                Dr. Margherita DI LEO<br>
                Scientific / technical project officer<br>
                <br>
                European Commission - DG JRC<br>
                Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES)<br>
                Via Fermi, 2749<br>
                I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261<br>
                <br>
                Tel. +39 0332 78 3600<br>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:margherita.di-leo@jrc.ec.europa.eu">margherita.di-leo@jrc.ec.europa.eu</a><br>
                <br>
                Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the
                writer and may not<br>
                in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official
                position of the<br>
                European Commission.<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                _______________________________________________<br>
                Discuss mailing list<br>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
                --<br>
                Cameron Shorter,<br>
                Software and Data Solutions Manager<br>
                LISAsoft<br>
                Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,<br>
                26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009<br>
                <br>
                P +61 2 9009 5000,  W <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">www.lisasoft.com</a>,  F +61 2 9009
                5099<br>
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              <br>
              _______________________________________________<br>
              Discuss mailing list<br>
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                href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
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            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            -- <br>
            Jachym Cepicky<br>
            e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com<br>
            URL: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://les-ejk.cz">http://les-ejk.cz</a><br>
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Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

P +61 2 9009 5000,  W <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">www.lisasoft.com</a>,  F +61 2 9009 5099</pre>
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