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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Or MapCode: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mapcode.com/">http://www.mapcode.com/</a> .
      It's already embedded in TomTom systems; however, it is open. Only
      the master grid database is controlled centrally by a foundation.
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      There's definitely a place for a non-coordinate-based place
      identifier, especially for the large proportion of the world's
      population without formal addresses. It'll be interesting to see
      what emerges. I've been thinking a mapcode plugin for QGIS would
      be a nice idea... <br>
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      On 29/10/2014 23:00, Barry Rowlingson wrote:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:34 PM,
            Daniel Morissette <span dir="ltr"><<a
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            wrote:<br>
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              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">This sounds very much
              like the Natural Area Coding (NAC) system:<br>
              <br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.nacgeo.com/"
                target="_blank">http://www.nacgeo.com/</a><br>
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              Interesting idea in theory, but in practice this has been
              around for<br>
              over a decade and hasn't really taken off, quite likely
              because an<br>
              alphanumerical code is not of much more use than pure
              geographic<br>
              coordinates.<br>
              <br>
              Or maybe it's like the case of "rasters in a database" [1]
              and this<br>
              concept just needs a strong champion to sell us the idea
              and convince<br>
              the world that we need it?<br>
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            <div> Or possibly because of non-open licensing terms?<br>
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              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.nacgeo.com/nacsite/licensing/">http://www.nacgeo.com/nacsite/licensing/</a><br>
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            <div> I think I have seen some web services teaming up with
              What3Words which does a similar thing except translates
              coords to a word triple via a proprietary, secret,
              server-based algorithm. Its cutesy nature ("I live at
              monkey sponge gearstick") seems to appeal to many since it
              makes memorable locations.<br>
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            <div>Anyhooo...<br>
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              Daniel<br>
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              [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-users/2006-October/013569.html"
                target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-users/2006-October/013569.html</a><br>
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                  On 14-10-29 3:53 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
                  > Hi Doug,<br>
                  > An interesting and potentially useful concept.<br>
                  > It sounds like you are proposing a spatial
                  standard. Have you approached<br>
                  > the Open Geospatial Consortium about getting the
                  standard endorsed?<br>
                  ><br>
                  > With regards to any code which you wish to
                  produce and open source, I<br>
                  > suggest considering bringing it under the
                  umbrella of the Open Source<br>
                  > Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo).<br>
                  > Details about OSGeo incubation here:<br>
                  > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator"
                    target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator</a><br>
                  ><br>
                  ><br>
                  > On 30/10/2014 1:08 am, Doug Rinckes wrote:<br>
                  >> I'm an engineer at Google, and I have just
                  open sourced a geo project<br>
                  >> we've been working on for a while.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> I used to work on our maps, detecting missing
                  road networks and in my<br>
                  >> spare time mapping roads in Papua New Guinea,
                  Central and West Africa<br>
                  >> from the satellite imagery. But without
                  street names or addresses, a<br>
                  >> road network isn't all that useful. People
                  can't use it for<br>
                  >> directions, because they can't express where
                  they want directions to.<br>
                  >> After talking with colleagues from around the
                  world, I discovered<br>
                  >> that's it actually very common for streets to
                  be unnamed.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> We thought that we should provide short codes
                  that could be used like<br>
                  >> addresses, to give the location of homes,
                  businesses, anything. If we<br>
                  >> made them usable from smartphones, we can
                  make addresses for anywhere<br>
                  >> available to anyone with a smartphone pretty
                  much immediately.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> We had some specific requirements, including
                  that these address codes<br>
                  >> should work offline, they shouldn't spell
                  words or include easily<br>
                  >> confused characters. We wanted to be able to
                  look at two codes and<br>
                  >> tell if they are near each other, and
                  estimate the direction and even<br>
                  >> the distance. The codes should not be
                  generated by a single provider,<br>
                  >> because what do you do when they disappear?
                  Finally, it had to be open<br>
                  >> sourced.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> Open sourcing the project was important. We
                  wanted to allow everyone<br>
                  >> to evaluate it so that we don't go
                  implementing something that turns<br>
                  >> out to not be useful. If it does turn out to
                  be useful, everyone<br>
                  >> (including other mapping providers) should be
                  able to implement it and<br>
                  >> use the codes freely.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> I'm pre-announcing this to a couple of geo
                  lists today, and I'll be<br>
                  >> sticking around for comments and questions.
                  The following links<br>
                  >> provide more information:<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> Github project: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="https://github.com/google/open-location-code"
                    target="_blank">https://github.com/google/open-location-code</a><br>
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              >> Demonstration website: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://plus.codes" target="_blank">http://plus.codes</a>
              <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://plus.codes/"
                target="_blank">http://plus.codes/</a>><br>
              >> Discussion list:<br>
              >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/open-location-code"
                target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/open-location-code</a><br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/open-location-code"
                target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/open-location-code</a>><br>
              <span class="">>><br>
                >> Enjoy!<br>
                >><br>
                >> Doug<br>
                >><br>
                >><br>
                >> _______________________________________________<br>
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                  target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br>
                ><br>
                > --<br>
                > Cameron Shorter,<br>
                > Software and Data Solutions Manager<br>
                > LISAsoft<br>
                > Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,<br>
                > 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009<br>
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