<div dir="ltr">I completely understand Daniel, I think a "star" belittles the amount of work (and operational change) involved in meeting OSGeo's requirements.<div><br></div><div>If it helps I am not talking about diluting incubation, instead opening up to more projects (by forgoing the requirement to have a mentor). All projects in incubation would be operating against the same graduation checklist.</div><div><br></div><div>All of the projects in incubation currently have made significant progress, most are just waiting on a "sprint" or "sponsor" to grind through their code review. I wonder if pycsw could share how long their code review took?</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 5 March 2015 at 11:57, Daniel Morissette <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dmorissette@mapgears.com" target="_blank">dmorissette@mapgears.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm not sure I like diluting the "Incubated Project" status by turning it into a star rating in which incubated and non-incubated projects are mixed.<br>
<br>
Incubated projects have taken steps to review their code and adjust their way to operate to meet several requirements, and just a set of stars do not relay that properly to the outside world.<br>
<br>
That being said, I have no alternative name to offer for the "OSGeo Labs" pre-incubation status at the moment, so I'll stay out of the debate.<br>
<br>
Daniel<span class=""><br>
<br>
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Or you’re saying you want to address this with the stars system? So 1<br>
star for existing labs projects for instance?<br>
<br>
Jody, as chair of the incubation committee, what’s your take on this?<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Bart<br>
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<br>
I don’t think you can put projects that have gone through incubation<br>
and the projects that still have to incubate at the same level. But<br>
that’s my opinion only.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Bart<br>
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Guys,<br>
<br>
I think you are trying to find a term for something, I would like to<br>
get rid of. "OSGeo Project" is, what I would like to achieve for both<br>
- today's projects and labs together under one hat.<br>
<br>
Or anybody thinks completely different?<br>
<br>
Just my $.02<br>
J<br>
<br>
čt 5. 3. 2015 v 9:08 odesílatel Suchith Anand<br>
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<br>
Yes, i think "Incubator Projects" is an appropriate name for this.<br>
<br>
Vaclav - Is this ok for you?<br>
<br>
Suchith<br></span>
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I agree Community Projects is a confusing name.<br>
<br>
What about incubator projects? That’s the term that Apache uses.<br>
<br></span>
<a href="http://incubator.apache.org" target="_blank">http://incubator.apache.org</a> <<a href="http://incubator.apache.org/" target="_blank">http://incubator.apache.org/</a>><span class=""><br>
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<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Suchith Anand<br></span><span class="">
<Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac._<u></u>_uk<br>
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Thanks Jeff.<br>
<br>
Though we had lots of discussions afterwards and continuing on<br>
this , we couldnt find any solution till now. So this might be a<br>
good opportunity to modify the Incubation's "labs" term, to<br>
something like "Community Projects" to avoid confusion if that is<br>
acceptable to Vaclav, Jachym and others. Many thanks.<br>
<br>
Well, I'm not particularly fond of "Community Projects" as a<br>
name. Even mature FOSS projects are community projects in one way<br>
or the other. Unfortunately, I don't have other suggestion.<br>
<br>
Vaclav<br>
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Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure<br>
<br>
(we are approaching 2 full years that this "labs" naming has been an<br>
issue and discussed[1])<br>
<br>
Today, knowing how ingrained the term 'lab' is in the GeoForAll<br>
education network, maybe Jachym is correct that it is a good time to<br>
modify the Incubation's "labs" term, to something like "Community<br>
Projects".<br>
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[1]<br></span>
<a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/__pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2013-__June/000134.html" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/__<u></u>pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2013-<u></u>__June/000134.html</a><span class=""><br>
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On 2015-03-03 3:42 AM, Suchith Anand wrote:<br>
> Vaclav,<br>
><br>
> Please accept my sincere apologies as it was my mistake that i<br>
did not think on this when we started the ICA-OSGeo Labs<br>
initiative (so many things were going on at that time!).<br>
><br>
> In universities, we generally use the "Labs" term to refer to<br></span>
infrastructure/people/__<u></u>facilities for a particular subject. For<span class=""><br>
example Botany Lab, Robotics Lab etc. And we wanted to make sure<br>
there is a dedicated Open Source Geospatial Lab in universities<br>
worldwide (which includes bringing together people from various<br>
disciplines, infrastructure (the physical space) and facilities<br>
to make this happen. Also it is easier to make use of the same<br>
terminology/structure of "Labs" which is widely used in the<br>
university environment to get academics start the initiative in<br>
their respective universities (also it is easier for them to<br>
convince their higher management on a structure that is known to<br>
them than reinvent a new term for this) .<br>
><br>
> So it will very helpful for us if you can make use of new<br>
"OSGeo-projects" and metioned star (or similar) rating system for<br>
the incubation as then there is no confusion in the future. Many<br>
thanks for your consideration.<br>
><br>
> Best wishes,<br>
><br>
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> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure<br>
><br>
> Vašku,<br>
><br>
> just side note: yes, whith the new "Labs" initiative<br>
"OSGeo-Labs" have to change their name.<br>
><br>
> My idea would rather be to get rid of current OSGeo- "labs" and<br>
"projects" and start with new "OSGeo-projects" and metioned star<br>
(or similar) rating system.<br>
><br>
> Than for current OSGeo-Labs "OSGeo-project level 1" would make<br>
it (or similar)<br>
><br>
> Jachym<br>
><br>
> po 2. 3. 2015 v 18:33 odesílatel Vaclav Petras<br>
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><br>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Jachym Cepicky<br>
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> former "OSGeo Labs" (now it has no name is slowly forgotten in<br>
past, but you can find more at<br></span>
<a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/__OSGeo_Labs" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/__<u></u>OSGeo_Labs</a><br>
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><br>
> Hi Jachym,<br>
><br>
> do you think that with the renewal you can replace the name<br>
"OSGeo Labs" by something else? Now we have also ISPRS-ICA-OSGeo<br>
Research and Educational laboratories which might be often<br>
shortened to OSGeo Labs, although I prefer OSGeoRELs for writing.<br>
The mainling list is ica-osgeo-labs. Put perhaps it is not such<br>
an issue since the term "Geo for All" (<a href="http://www.geoforall.org/" target="_blank">http://www.geoforall.org/</a>)<br>
is now used more and more (well, the linked website as OSGeo Labs<br>
in the title element).<br>
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> Thanks for taking this into consideration,<br>
> Vaclav<br>
><br>
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