<p dir="ltr">To clarify this: I just got inspired by the open data classification. It also does not tell anything about the data itself, it's pure about how "open" they are.</p>
<p dir="ltr">But I really do not stick to stars to much.</p>
<p dir="ltr">J</p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 6, 2015, 16:01 Massimiliano Cannata <<a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<br>The only concern is that stars are often identified with quality of things (tripadvisor example) while the stars we are talking about are only graduation level.<br><div><span style="line-height:1.5">For this reason I would </span>propose<span style="line-height:1.5"> to use something different from stars, maybe using colors from yellow to green or different icons (code provenance passed, etc.)</span><br></div><div><span style="line-height:1.5"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height:1.5">My 0.21 cents ;-)</span></div><div><span style="line-height:1.5">Maxi</span></div><div><span style="line-height:1.5"><br></span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno ven 6 mar 2015 alle ore 09:08 Jachym Cepicky <<a href="mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.com" target="_blank">jachym.cepicky@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Guys, <br><br>you are all naming it.<div><br></div><div>I think, current incubation process does not work for reasons:</div><div><br></div><div>1 - incubation procedure is designed for big projects, big steps</div><div>2 - new projects are likely never pass it</div><div>3 - it does not cover the "post-incbuation" time</div><div><br></div><div>result: only few projects proceeded to incubation recently, and incubation itself is long-term pain in you know where, instead of taking one big take-them-all steps, to transform it to smaller, easier to pass steps so there would be approach. and even projects with not huge ambitions, would be part of our family.</div><div><br></div><div>already started to sort out current checklist at, please continue <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/5-star-rating" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/5-star-rating</a></div><div><br></div><div>J</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">čt 5. 3. 2015 v 23:53 odesílatel Angelos Tzotsos <<a href="mailto:gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com" target="_blank">gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com</a>> napsal:</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Hi,<br>
<br>
For pycsw, we started code review discussion during FOSS4G 2014
Code Sprint, but the actual review happened within 2-3 weeks.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Angelos</div></div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div><br>
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<pre>I completely understand Daniel, I think a "star" belittles the amount of
work (and operational change) involved in meeting OSGeo's requirements.
If it helps I am not talking about diluting incubation, instead opening up
to more projects (by forgoing the requirement to have a mentor). All
projects in incubation would be operating against the same graduation
checklist.
All of the projects in incubation currently have made significant progress,
most are just waiting on a "sprint" or "sponsor" to grind through their
code review. I wonder if pycsw could share how long their code review took?
--
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<pre>I'm not sure I like diluting the "Incubated Project" status by turning it
into a star rating in which incubated and non-incubated projects are mixed.
Incubated projects have taken steps to review their code and adjust their
way to operate to meet several requirements, and just a set of stars do not
relay that properly to the outside world.
That being said, I have no alternative name to offer for the "OSGeo Labs"
pre-incubation status at the moment, so I'll stay out of the debate.
Daniel
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<pre>Or you’re saying you want to address this with the stars system? So 1
star for existing labs projects for instance?
Jody, as chair of the incubation committee, what’s your take on this?
Best regards,
Bart
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I don’t think you can put projects that have gone through incubation
and the projects that still have to incubate at the same level. But
that’s my opinion only.
Best regards,
Bart
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Guys,
I think you are trying to find a term for something, I would like to
get rid of. "OSGeo Project" is, what I would like to achieve for both
- today's projects and labs together under one hat.
Or anybody thinks completely different?
Just my $.02
J
čt 5. 3. 2015 v 9:08 odesílatel Suchith Anand
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Yes, i think "Incubator Projects" is an appropriate name for this.
Vaclav - Is this ok for you?
Suchith
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I agree Community Projects is a confusing name.
What about incubator projects? That’s the term that Apache uses.
<a href="http://incubator.apache.org" target="_blank">http://incubator.apache.org</a> <a href="http://incubator.apache.org/" target="_blank"><http://incubator.apache.org/></a>
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Bart
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Thanks Jeff.
Though we had lots of discussions afterwards and continuing on
this , we couldnt find any solution till now. So this might be a
good opportunity to modify the Incubation's "labs" term, to
something like "Community Projects" to avoid confusion if that is
acceptable to Vaclav, Jachym and others. Many thanks.
Well, I'm not particularly fond of "Community Projects" as a
name. Even mature FOSS projects are community projects in one way
or the other. Unfortunately, I don't have other suggestion.
Vaclav
Suchith
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Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
(we are approaching 2 full years that this "labs" naming has been an
issue and discussed[1])
Today, knowing how ingrained the term 'lab' is in the GeoForAll
education network, maybe Jachym is correct that it is a good time to
modify the Incubation's "labs" term, to something like "Community
Projects".
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On 2015-03-03 3:42 AM, Suchith Anand wrote:
> Vaclav,
>
> Please accept my sincere apologies as it was my mistake that i
did not think on this when we started the ICA-OSGeo Labs
initiative (so many things were going on at that time!).
>
> In universities, we generally use the "Labs" term to refer to
infrastructure/people/__facilities for a particular subject. For
example Botany Lab, Robotics Lab etc. And we wanted to make sure
there is a dedicated Open Source Geospatial Lab in universities
worldwide (which includes bringing together people from various
disciplines, infrastructure (the physical space) and facilities
to make this happen. Also it is easier to make use of the same
terminology/structure of "Labs" which is widely used in the
university environment to get academics start the initiative in
their respective universities (also it is easier for them to
convince their higher management on a structure that is known to
them than reinvent a new term for this) .
>
> So it will very helpful for us if you can make use of new
"OSGeo-projects" and metioned star (or similar) rating system for
the incubation as then there is no confusion in the future. Many
thanks for your consideration.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith
>
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>
> Vašku,
>
> just side note: yes, whith the new "Labs" initiative
"OSGeo-Labs" have to change their name.
>
> My idea would rather be to get rid of current OSGeo- "labs" and
"projects" and start with new "OSGeo-projects" and metioned star
(or similar) rating system.
>
> Than for current OSGeo-Labs "OSGeo-project level 1" would make
it (or similar)
>
> Jachym
>
> po 2. 3. 2015 v 18:33 odesílatel Vaclav Petras
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> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Jachym Cepicky
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> former "OSGeo Labs" (now it has no name is slowly forgotten in
past, but you can find more at
<a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/__OSGeo_Labs" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/__OSGeo_Labs</a>
<a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs" target="_blank"><http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs></a>)
>
> Hi Jachym,
>
> do you think that with the renewal you can replace the name
"OSGeo Labs" by something else? Now we have also ISPRS-ICA-OSGeo
Research and Educational laboratories which might be often
shortened to OSGeo Labs, although I prefer OSGeoRELs for writing.
The mainling list is ica-osgeo-labs. Put perhaps it is not such
an issue since the term "Geo for All" (<a href="http://www.geoforall.org/" target="_blank">http://www.geoforall.org/</a>)
is now used more and more (well, the linked website as OSGeo Labs
in the title element).
>
> Thanks for taking this into consideration,
> Vaclav
>
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