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Thanks for the comments so far. I've refined the Draft CoC to try
and capture suggestions:<br>
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<i>We are regularly debating and refining ideas. We don't always
agree. When we disagree it is important that we treat each other
with respect as people. Note that we have a multi-cultural,
multi-lingual community and some of us are non-native speakers.</i>[1]<br>
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Johan Van de Wauw, has also recommended considering the Debian Code
of Conduct [2], which has some good text, and I've added the Geek
Feminism Anti Harassment Policy (referenced from the Debian CoC).<br>
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With so many variants on the CoC/Diversity Statement, it would be
great if a international standard could be created, such as done for
Open Source Licenses.<br>
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[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Draft_OSGeo_Code_of_Conduct">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Draft_OSGeo_Code_of_Conduct</a><br>
[2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Debian_Code_of_Conduct">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Debian_Code_of_Conduct</a><br>
[3]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Geek_Feminism_Template_Anti_Harassment_Policy">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Geek_Feminism_Template_Anti_Harassment_Policy</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/03/2015 5:40 pm, Maria Antonia
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Diversity also refers to language. We have to start reason on
that as a richness and not as a barrier. I like to have this
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Thanks.</p>
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<b>Inviato:</b> martedì 31 marzo 2015 08.33<br>
<b>A:</b> Andrea Aime; Cameron Shorter<br>
<b>Cc:</b> OSGeo Discussions<br>
<b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Discussion on
statement : avoiding slang. Was: Drafting a Diversity
statement for the foundation (call for input)</font>
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<p dir="ltr">Hi,</p>
<p dir="ltr">My experience within OSGeo was positive so far.
At FOSS4G, sometimes people forget, that half of the crowd
speaks English only occasionally, which can lead to
misunderstandings.
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<p dir="ltr">Anyway: I would like to point out, that it is
not only matter of writing, but also talking (at foss4gs,
sprints, ...) In public but also in private, what can be
even harder than writing (you can not take your time to
figure out the best way how to express, what you need).</p>
<p dir="ltr">And yes, having something like that in CoC
would be nice.<br>
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On Sun, Mar 29, 2015, 22:00 Andrea Aime <<a
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href="mailto:andrea.aime@geo-solutions.it">andrea.aime@geo-solutions.it</a>>
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<p dir="ltr">On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Cameron
Shorter <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
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<p dir="ltr">Thanks all for the feedback.<br>
So my question is:<br>
1. Should our Code of Conduct/Diversity statement
mention that we have a multilingual community?<br>
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<p dir="ltr">I believe it's still a good idea.</p>
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2. What should we recommend that all, and especially
native speakers do to make our community welcoming to
non-native speakers?<br>
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<p dir="ltr">I'd suggest, just a reminder that the level
of written English can vary a lot, ranging from cases
where the lack of fluency is</p>
<p dir="ltr">evident, to cases where the sentence seems
just too direct/rude, so generally speaking, it's a good
idea to try and be patient</p>
<p dir="ltr">and understanding.<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Sometimes I wish there was a guide of typical
expectations/orientations varying culture by culture, to
try</p>
<p dir="ltr">and understand better where people are coming
from and put what they say in context (this example</p>
<p dir="ltr"> might be wrong or just a silly
generalizations, but just to give you an idea, I've
heard</p>
<p dir="ltr">Japanese normally won't say no in a
conversation, you have to figure it out, and other
cultures surely</p>
<p dir="ltr">have their "surprising" traits as well).<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Cheers</p>
<p dir="ltr">Andrea<br>
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