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Last year I did a very odd software estimate for a client. The short
story is I'm adding Open Source GIS Software to their ESRI
Commercial setup. In one scenario we decided to remove All the
commercial software and go with Open Source. We ended up through
multiple phone calls decided that they would end up using $2500
dollars worth of ArcGISOnline a year if they wanted to keep that
service. <br>
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If you multiplied that per 14,000,000 students 9 -12 [1] you have a
very large number which isn't one billion, but when you start
playing with the numbers you can make a software gift be anything. <br>
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In one high school at which I volunteer we did a GIS project in
OpenStreetMap. The teacher applied for a grant and received about 25
new computers because of the project. We loaded them with QGIS and
ArcGIS. ArcGIS was donated by ESRI (500 seats of Arcview at
$whatever_arciew_costs_a_year). QGIS was free. My time to load the
computers was donated. <br>
<br>
Two years later the computers are still in good shape BUT they will
not run ArcGISPro which is the new release from ESRI. So I am
pushing we remove all the commercial software and make it all
FOSS4G. FOSS4G is going to allow us to leverage the existing
computers for a very long time. That is a larger fight of GIS
Curriculum in a High School (there isn't an official one) and my
time (I work for myself) and the ability to make that happen. 99% of
the teachers in that school system do not know nor care what GIS is
or does. When you start talking "this will save you
equipment/hardware/software" costs you gain their attention quickly
though. <br>
<br>
Of course none of that has been written up because I've never had a
reason to write it up - it's just a local problem with which I
wrestle. <br>
<br>
Good Luck - I hope that helps some. <br>
<br>
Randy<br>
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[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372">http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372</a> <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/02/2015 08:20 AM, Newcomb, Doug
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<div dir="ltr">Suchith,
<div>I am guessing that the 1 billion dollar number is for full
commercial price with no volume or educational discounts for
the ArcGIS Online services. If you want to make a similar
claim for the OSGeo Academy simply multiply the full retail
commercial cost ( plus maintenance) , without volume or
educational discounts, of the different proprietary software
packages with equivalent functionality to the tasks presented
in the GeoAcademy MOOC , times 4000. </div>
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<div>To add a bit more honesty, list the educational discount
for the proprietary software packages , then the full
commercial price. One could make the case that the software
presented in GeoAcademy does not change in price when leaving
academia for the "real world", presenting an economic benefit
to geospatial professionals starting careers.</div>
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<div>Do a 10 year analysis, based on ongoing licensing purchase
and maintenance costs, between the software in GeoAcademy and
the proprietary software. Multiply that times 4000.</div>
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<div>Just a suggestion.</div>
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<div>Doug </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Suchith
Anand <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk"
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
<br>
Few years ago, myself and colleagues here did a study to
help us understand the social history of collaborative
activities within the OSGeo ecosystem. The results were
published as a research paper on "Mapping Collaboration in
Open Source Geospatial Ecosystem" in Transactions in GIS
(Volume 16, Issue 4, pages 581–597, 2012).<br>
<br>
Last year after OSGIS 2014, following informal discussions
with some colleagues, i decided to do a similar study to
help understand the economic impact of OSGeo Software on the
digital economy. To do this, we need to understand the
metrics used for calculating this. Can anyone who has done
similar studies in other domains help me point to any
relevant articles for helping find a framework for this. We
need to know the underlying metrics so we can use that same
framework for this study.<br>
<br>
For example, reading through <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://news.aag.org/2015/05/aag-seeks-proposal-authors-reviewers-for-new-ap-course-in-gist/"
target="_blank">http://news.aag.org/2015/05/aag-seeks-proposal-authors-reviewers-for-new-ap-course-in-gist/</a>
i understand that "In 2014, Esri announced a $1 billion
gift of cloud-based ArcGIS Online software to support the
Obama Administration’s ConnectEd initiative. This remarkable
gift is providing free ArcGIS Online accounts to any public
or private school upon request. " I am interested to
understand how this $1 billion gift is calculated? Can
anyone knowledgeable on this provide the details of these
metrics use for this calculation?<br>
<br>
For example, The GeoAcademy MOOC program that our colleagues
did ( i understand that for just the March 2015 cohert were
4000 students in thier program who all used QGIS), so if
they all had to buy properitory software for thier study,
how much will they have to pay? and will it be possible to
even run a course like this ? It is important to quantify
this as it will help us also appreciate the great donation
of the Open Source Geospatial Foundation and the importance
of Open Principles in Education.<br>
<br>
Once we can get details of the metrics used for the
calculation of properitory software donation, we can use the
same metric to understand the impact of OSGeo software
donations over many years to the Global geospatial
education, economy and business and help us with the new
research paper that i am planning to work on "The Economic
Impacts of Open Source Geospatial Software". I will
acknowledge all contributions/inputs recieved from the wider
community in this planned research paper. If you done
similar kind of study, in other domains , it will be helpful
to get your ideas. Thanks in advance.<br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
<br>
Suchith<br>
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