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Hi Maxi and Eli,<br>
<br>
I like Maxi's clarification of charter member involvement. I see
similarities with:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors#Suggested_involvement_from_board_members">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors#Suggested_involvement_from_board_members</a><br>
(I found this list, originally started by Arnulf, to be very useful
when I was considering involvement with the board)<br>
<br>
In discussing OSGeo Roles, I'd suggest also mentioning OSGeo
Advocates:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate</a><br>
"OSGeo Advocates are authoritative OSGeo personalities who have
volunteered to talk on behalf of the OSGeo foundation." Anyone can
add themselves.<br>
When calling for OSGeo Charter members, I suggest we should also
invite people to update their OSGeo Advocate profile, or add
themselves if not already listed.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Cameron<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/07/2015 5:47 pm, Massimiliano
Cannata wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAMKYQEsfDEXRhVmwzDJt+Si7=7p8PSqHPkZL5GFaNF7j+3yFoQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Thanks Eli,
<div>I agree with you about the distinction between
"Participants" and "Members".</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>While participants are those that are working with open
source technologies in the geospatial field (I know many
people that don't care of OSGeo but follow many list of open
source projects or topics because this is the only thing what
they look at) members are thos that take care of OSGeo as a
fundation and of its ultimate goals (disseminate, build,
guarante, etc.).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It is to me like "users" and "committers" of a software
project.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So the point is what is the role of a member?</div>
<div><u>Again in my opinion</u>, it should be:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>DUTIES:</div>
<div>* abide the OSGeo code of conduct</div>
<div>* support OSGeo goals</div>
<div>* vote when is required</div>
<div>* ....</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>RIGHTS</div>
<div>* vote for the Board</div>
<div>* vote for any referendum</div>
<div>* propose new members</div>
<div>* ....</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>RULES</div>
<div>* removed from member if not voted for 3 consecutive time</div>
<div>* removed from member if a severe infringement of CoC is
detected</div>
<div>* can propose 1 new member a year with 5 support letters of
other members (no voting procedure but only verification from
a committee to avoid takeover actions<br>
</div>
<div>* ...</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>And so on....</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Maxi</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2015-07-03 8:28 GMT+02:00 Eli Adam <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us" target="_blank">eadam@co.lincoln.or.us</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Vasile,<br>
<br>
Great work pulling this together.<br>
<br>
We keep calling this discussion things like "Charter member
elections"<br>
and addressing it during election periods. I think that
topic is<br>
really something else, "the nature and types of OSGeo
Membership" or<br>
something similar.<br>
<br>
If we evaluate our existing structure [1], I think that we
can regard<br>
"Participants" as a resounding success (there are 10,000+
involved on<br>
the email lists, projects, events, etc). Just as the
"Participants"<br>
are a success, I think that "Members" are a near complete
failure [52]<br>
[53] in their current form, I think that "Charter Members"
are working<br>
well enough in that they seem to be achieving their purpose
of being<br>
people dedicated to the OSGeo Mission, electing the Board
and Charter<br>
members, and preventing the unlikely scenario of a
takeover. Charter<br>
membership seems to be fraught with all sorts of additional<br>
connotation, confusion, differring perspectives, and
debate. Based on<br>
this, I think that OSGeo should further our success with<br>
"participants", end "membership" since it failed, and refine
"Charter"<br>
so that is works better.<br>
<br>
What OSGeo membership and Charter membership has been
unclear to many.<br>
Here is the explanation that I often give to people (some of
whom have<br>
been using and contributing to OSGeo projects for 5+ years):<br>
<br>
Members simply self identify as members on the wiki.<br>
<br>
Charter members are nominated and elected. They do what
they see fit<br>
when they see fit to further/support the goals and mission
of OSGeo.<br>
It has also historically been a badge of honor for
contributing good<br>
work.<br>
<br>
What a "Charter Member" is is a matter of endless debate but
the very<br>
practical purpose is simple: The real practical purpose of
Charter<br>
Members is to elect the Board of Directors (and more Charter
Members).<br>
It is to prevent hostile takeover of the organization (or
the<br>
organization's resources) since OSGeo other than voting for
the Board<br>
and Charter Members, is open to all who find it, figure out
how to<br>
participate, are inclined to participate, and feel welcome.<br>
<br>
By offering to nominate you as a Charter Member what I
really think is that:<br>
1) you support the OSGeo Mission and Goals (promote Open
Source GIS<br>
software through the world)<br>
2) you are sufficiently responsible and care enough to pay
minimal<br>
attention twice per year to vote for the OSGeo Board of
Directors and<br>
additional Charter Members<br>
3) in the extremely unlikely scenario of a hostile takeover
you would<br>
first be aware of it and secondly vote to prevent it
<--this is<br>
really the sole purpose of Charter Members but it is so
unlikely that<br>
people forget this is the purpose and it is sort of a stupid
purpose<br>
(even if necessary).<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
In that regard, I think that the survey should include some
questions like:<br>
<br>
"OSGeo Membership should be more open/closed" "Agree or
Disagree<br>
1-10; 10 is strongly agree, 1 is strongly disagree"<br>
<br>
"The primary purpose of OSGeo Membership is: a) increase
participation<br>
in OSGeo activities b) recognize substantial OSGeo
contributors c)<br>
give members a sense of identity and cohesion d)<br>
other_________________________"<br>
<br>
"Maintaining some structure to prevent takeover of the
organization<br>
is: a) a waste of time and effort b) worthwhile even if
guarding<br>
against an unlikely event c) other_____________"<br>
<br>
"Charter membership should be renamed to a) keep it as
Charter b)<br>
voting members c) electors d) other _____________"<br>
<br>
"Charter membership should not be used as an honor or mark
of prestige<br>
instead those should be addressed by a) disagree, charter
membership<br>
is for prestige b) The Sol Katz Award c) we should have some
other<br>
badge system d) other ________"<br>
<br>
"The number of Charter members should be a) restricted to
some low<br>
number b) only be constrained by the number of good
candidates<br>
available c) other _________"<br>
<br>
and other questions regarding the types and nature of OSGeo
membership<br>
<br>
I do believe that Charter members play an important role
guarding<br>
against the extremely unlikely risk of a takeover. Other
than that<br>
very minor role which can be achieved by several methods, I
think that<br>
all OSGeo activities should be as open as possible to as
many people<br>
as possible.<br>
<br>
Best regards, Eli<br>
<br>
[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.osgeo.org/Membership" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/Membership</a><br>
[52] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Category:OSGeo_Member"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Category:OSGeo_Member</a>
--<br>
fewer than 1,000 people have bothered to register as
"Members"<br>
[53] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_member_page_instruction"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_member_page_instruction</a><br>
<div class="HOEnZb">
<div class="h5"><br>
<br>
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 5:54 AM, Vasile Craciunescu<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vasile@geo-spatial.org">vasile@geo-spatial.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Dear Cameron, Arnulf, Jeff and Gert-Jan,<br>
><br>
> Thank you for your appreciations! It was an
interesting exercise of digital<br>
> archeology :)<br>
><br>
> Dear all,<br>
><br>
> I'm waiting until tomorrow for more feedback/ideas.
Then I will draft a<br>
> survey, I will send you the questions and ask for
your opinion and finally,<br>
> if all agree, the survey will be sent to all
charter members.<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
> Vasile<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 7/2/15 3:29 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks Vasile for all your excellent research.
Great job (and an<br>
>> interesting read).<br>
>><br>
>> Are you planning to draft sample questions and
tick box answers to be<br>
>> commented on before being put to the vote?<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers Cameron?<br>
>><br>
>> On 30/06/2015 10:39 pm, Arnulf Christl (OSGeo)
wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
>>> Hash: SHA1<br>
>>><br>
>>> Vasile,<br>
>>> thanks from here too for this very useful
recap. I posted it more or<br>
>>> less verbatim to the discussion page of the
Charter Members article in<br>
>>> the Wiki:<br>
>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Membership_Process"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Membership_Process</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> All,<br>
>>> on the OSGeo Wiki we currently have 605
"self categorized" OSGeo members:<br>
>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Category:OSGeo_Member"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Category:OSGeo_Member</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> This is the best we can currently do for
anybody who is interested in<br>
>>> becoming an OSGeo member apart from
subscribing to the Discuss mailing<br>
>>> list or being nominated as a "Charter
Member" to be then elected by an<br>
>>> eclectic group of geospatial whizzes.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Just to reiterate: "Charter Members" are
usually those who set up the<br>
>>> charter of an organization:<br>
>>> "A charter member of an organization is an
original member; that is, one<br>
>>> who became a member when the organization
received its charter."<br>
>>> - From <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> After signing the Charter they can continue
to participate actively in<br>
>>> the organization, go away or even die -
without any of this actually<br>
>>> changing the Charter.<br>
>>><br>
>>> What is OSGeo's Charter? My guess is that
the section "About the Open<br>
>>> Source Geospatial Foundation" contains what
we would consider our<br>
>>> Charter.<br>
>>><br>
>>> As a legal body incorporated in Delaware,
USA we needed to implement how<br>
>>> the newly founded organization should
support this charter. This has<br>
>>> been written into the bylaws:<br>
>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> In "ARTICLE VII Members" of our bylaws we
specify how we plan to manage<br>
>>> membership. There is no talk of "Charter
Members", just "members".<br>
>>> Looking at what we did almost 10 years ago
it was probably the right<br>
>>> thing to do at that time. But it may be
good for an update. My<br>
>>> suggestion is to change this section into
regular membership and remove<br>
>>> the self-pollinating aspect. At the same
time we could update our<br>
>>> "About" section into a proper Charter and
then go ahead and operate as<br>
>>> any regular member association.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On a personal note: I do not see any danger
of a hostile take-over. This<br>
>>> was an important catch we put into the DNA
of OSGeo when we founded it.<br>
>>> There never was a hostile take-over and I
cannot really see it coming.<br>
>>> We are big enough to not need to fear this
anymore. And we would make<br>
>>> OSGeo a much more open and welcoming
organization if we moved away from<br>
>>> this somewhat strange self pollinating
system.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I am not really passionate about this and
only consider it an overdue<br>
>>> maintenance patch to how OSGeo functions.
If there is no broad interest<br>
>>> I am happy to drop the ball, otherwise I am
as happy to help build a<br>
>>> more appropriate member mechanism.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Best regards,<br>
>>> Seven<br>
>>><br>
>>> - -- Arnulf Christl (OSGeo)<br>
>>> OSGeo President Emeritus<br>
>>> OSGeo Founding and Charter Member<br>
>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Arnulf_Christl"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Arnulf_Christl</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 30.06.2015 13:24, Gert-Jan van der
Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Vasile: thanks for this very useful
recap.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> A few remarks from a relative newbie as
I am ;-)<br>
>>>> - the name of the wiki page with the
charter members is already called<br>
>>>> "voting members" ;-)<br>
>>>> - the charter member list grows and
grows. Over the year only 1 person<br>
>>>> retired from the charter member list<br>
>>>> - charter membership seems to drift
towards a title of honour,<br>
>>>> instead of a<br>
>>>> mechanism for proper board elections
and prevent a hostile take-over<br>
>>>> - the voting participant rate for the
board elections is low over the<br>
>>>> years:<br>
>>>> 70% - 85%. I would expect 100%!<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Therefore, I'd suggest a voting
membership with:<br>
>>>> - a fixed number of seats (e.g. 72)<br>
>>>> - with a certain numbers of seats
reserved for each region [51],<br>
>>>> (e.g. 6*6,<br>
>>>> and thus 36 remaining
"wildcard"-seats).<br>
>>>> - in case of not enough candidates, or
note enough votes for a candidate<br>
>>>> from a certain region, seats can remain
empty<br>
>>>> - a 3 term (instead of a lifetime
membership, re-election possible)<br>
>>>> - and a mechanism in which not all
seats are elected every year, but<br>
>>>> one-third every year, and thus all
seats once every three years<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Just my 2 eurocents,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Gert-Jan<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> [51] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bl.ocks.org/jsanz/raw/779f9b9954b92461fa50/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://bl.ocks.org/jsanz/raw/779f9b9954b92461fa50/</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<br>
>>>> Van: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
>>>> [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]
Namens Vasile Craciunescu<br>
>>>> Verzonden: maandag 29 juni 2015 15:08<br>
>>>> Aan: OSGeo Discussions<br>
>>>> Onderwerp: [OSGeo-Discuss] 2015 Charter
Member elections<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Dear all,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> First of all, please accept my
apologies for the delay in sending this<br>
>>>> message to you and, again, apologies
for the length of the message.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Let's start with some basic information
about the charter member<br>
>>>> elections<br>
>>>> followed by a little bit of history. I
know that many of you already<br>
>>>> know<br>
>>>> the details but the community is quite
large now and I find this recap<br>
>>>> useful.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> OSGeo charter members [1] are the blood
of our foundation. They are<br>
>>>> voted<br>
>>>> into this category by the other charter
members. They have the right<br>
>>>> to vote<br>
>>>> in elections for other charter members
and for board members. They are<br>
>>>> required to act in accordance with the
goals and bylaws [2] of the<br>
>>>> Foundation and have the following
responsibilities:<br>
>>>> (1) annually vote for OSGeo Board
members; (2) annually vote for new<br>
>>>> OSGeo<br>
>>>> Charter members and (3) be aware of and
protect against a hostile<br>
>>>> takeover<br>
>>>> of OSGeo.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Each year new charter members are
nominated (nomination process is<br>
>>>> open for<br>
>>>> the entire community, not only to the
existing charter members) and<br>
>>>> elected<br>
>>>> by existing OSGeo charter members, in a
process supervised by the<br>
>>>> board [3]<br>
>>>> and operated by the Chief Returning
Officer (CRO) [4].<br>
>>>> Non-active members can retire or be
removed by board decision. An<br>
>>>> updated<br>
>>>> list with all the current and past
charter members is available on OSGEo<br>
>>>> website [5]. During the years the
charter members selection procedure<br>
>>>> suffered minor and major changes as you
can see bellow.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> OSGeo was created in early 2006 [7].
One of the main outcomes of the<br>
>>>> first<br>
>>>> OSGeo meeting (held in Chicago) [7] was
a list of 21 foundation voting<br>
>>>> members (most of them high profile
figures of the existing FOSS4G<br>
>>>> projects) and 5 interim directors [8].
Later that month, the first real<br>
>>>> elections started with a public
nomination call [9] followed by a<br>
>>>> vote [10]<br>
>>>> and the election of new 24 voting
members [11]. This was followed by<br>
>>>> a new<br>
>>>> nomination call [12] for the remaining
four open seats in the board.<br>
>>>> After a<br>
>>>> tight vote, the first four candidates
[13] from a list of eight [14]<br>
>>>> join<br>
>>>> the board.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> In June, after a f2f meeting, the new
board redefined the OSGeo<br>
>>>> membership<br>
>>>> categories as we know today [15]. The
voting members are now called<br>
>>>> "Charter<br>
>>>> Members" and they have the right to
vote in elections for other charter<br>
>>>> members, and for board members. The
other member categories<br>
>>>> (participant &<br>
>>>> members) have the right to nominate
charter board members but they<br>
>>>> cannot<br>
>>>> cast votes. In March 2007, with the
approach of the new charter members<br>
>>>> elections, discussion started about the
ned for a CRO position, the<br>
>>>> number<br>
>>>> of new seats (and by who/how the number
is decided) and the voting<br>
>>>> procedure<br>
>>>> (e.g. nomination and voting period
extend, right to designate a<br>
>>>> proxy, the<br>
>>>> number of votes each charter member can
submit) [16]. In June 2007 the<br>
>>>> nomination process [17] started with
the aim to elect 15 charter members<br>
>>>> (the number was arbitrarily selected by
the board). During the vote<br>
>>>> [18],<br>
>>>> each charter member was entitled to
cast votes up to 15 names from the<br>
>>>> nomination list. It was possible to
cast more than one vote to the same<br>
>>>> nominee (even all 15 votes).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The same voting procedure was used for
the 2008 charter member elections<br>
>>>> (including the number of seats, 15)
[19]. However, the nomination list<br>
>>>> included 18 great names [20] and people
start asking to accept all the<br>
>>>> names. Again, the method to pick the
number of open seats was questioned<br>
>>>> again. Some people ask not to change
the rules during the game and to<br>
>>>> select<br>
>>>> only 15 names. And 15th it was.
Ironically, "there was a four-way tie<br>
>>>> for<br>
>>>> last place. So, the 15th person on the
list was selected by a random<br>
>>>> process." [21].<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> In 2009 the elections [22] followed the
same rules but the number of<br>
>>>> seats<br>
>>>> was raised to 30. Though, as before,
the charter members were able to<br>
>>>> cast<br>
>>>> only 15 votes. All nominated members
[23] were elected as the number was<br>
>>>> bellow 30.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2010 [24], brought an important change.
Due to lack of time for proper<br>
>>>> organization, it was decided to switch
the election order and elect the<br>
>>>> charter members after the board
elections. This way, the new charter<br>
>>>> members<br>
>>>> were not able to vote in the same year
were elected. Also, the board<br>
>>>> decided, in a f2f meeting, to "add 10%
of existing members each year<br>
>>>> - 10<br>
>>>> new members this year." [25]. The
charter member were able to cast a<br>
>>>> maximum<br>
>>>> of 10 votes using the same rules as
before. However, a number of voices<br>
>>>> noted that the list of nominee [26] had
many great names and it was a<br>
>>>> pity<br>
>>>> to cut down to only 10. Some suggested
that is time to make some<br>
>>>> changes in<br>
>>>> the charter member selection procedure
(e.g. [27]).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> In 2011 [28] the elections order remain
the same as in 2010. The board<br>
>>>> agreed on opening 20 seats (20% -
[29]). Each member were able to cast a<br>
>>>> maximum of 20 votes using the same
rules as before. In the end, 21<br>
>>>> members<br>
>>>> were elected (all nominees [30]) as it
was a tie for the 20th slot<br>
>>>> and that<br>
>>>> still fits within the limits of 20% new
charter members set by the<br>
>>>> board.<br>
>>>> The voting participating rate was 65%
and some voices ask about the<br>
>>>> charter<br>
>>>> member retirement procedure.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> In 2012 [31] the election schedule
return to the initial order: first<br>
>>>> charter member and then board. 20 seats
were open and the board<br>
>>>> decided to<br>
>>>> accept all 22 nominations [32] as it
was inline with OSGeo bylaws (is<br>
>>>> possible to add between 10% and one
third of the existing charter<br>
>>>> membership).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2013 [33] elections followed the 2012
scenario. 30 seats open. 37<br>
>>>> nominations received [34]. The board
decided to accept all the<br>
>>>> nominations.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2014 [35], the year of the change for
OSGeo charter member elections.<br>
>>>> First big change was the implementation
of an electronic voting<br>
>>>> system [36]<br>
>>>> to replace the e-mail voting. The
selection process itself was also<br>
>>>> revised<br>
>>>> from the bottom. Each charter member
received an email with a<br>
>>>> personalized<br>
>>>> url to access the electronic voting
system. Each charter member can vote<br>
>>>> with Yes/No/Abstain for all nominated
charter members.<br>
>>>> Each candidate with more YES votes than
NO votes, and greater than 5% of<br>
>>>> voting charter members voting YES for
them, were included as new charter<br>
>>>> members. The result was that all 64
nominations [37] were accepted as<br>
>>>> Charter members. For the first time,
the board decided to publish the<br>
>>>> elections results on the internet with
detail numbers of<br>
>>>> YES/NO/ABSTAIN for<br>
>>>> each nominee [38]. Some concerns were
raised about the low threshold of<br>
>>>> voting charter members voting YES for a
nominee.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Now we are getting to the current year.
In 2015 [39], the elections will<br>
>>>> follow the same pattern: charter
members and then board members. For the<br>
>>>> charter members elections, the OSGeo
president, Jeff McKenna, propose to<br>
>>>> change the the above mentioned
threshold from 5% to 50% [40]. Jeff did a<br>
>>>> simulation on the last year votes with
the new threshold and<br>
>>>> discovered that<br>
>>>> 45 nominations would be accepted,
versus all 64 nominations. The item<br>
>>>> was<br>
>>>> briefly introduced during the board
meeting held in June [41].<br>
>>>> Due to the lack of time, no detailed
discussions or vote follow [42].<br>
>>>> However, a motion on the item was
introduced to the board via e-mail<br>
>>>> [43].<br>
>>>> The board was not able to reach an
consensus with six votes to<br>
>>>> approve, one<br>
>>>> abstain and two to reject the motion.
Some other charter members join<br>
>>>> the<br>
>>>> discussion but also with split
opinions. Some are pro for a more<br>
>>>> exclusive<br>
>>>> charter membership and some are for a
easy way to join. A<br>
>>>> consultation with<br>
>>>> the entire community was demanded. For
more details see thread "[Board]<br>
>>>> motions from June 18 meeting - making
OSGeo Charter membership more<br>
>>>> exclusive" on the board mailing list
[44]. The thread expanded on the<br>
>>>> OSGeo-discuss mailing list and more
concerns were raised. Like: the<br>
>>>> YES/NO/Abstain options should be better
explained to the charter<br>
>>>> members;<br>
>>>> ask the charter members to vote on the
threshold; the algorithm to<br>
>>>> measure<br>
>>>> the support for a nominee should be
modified as Abstain votes are<br>
>>>> counted<br>
>>>> right now as No votes. The "YES / (NO +
YES) = percentage support"<br>
>>>> [45] and<br>
>>>> "(YES-NO) / (YES+NO+ABSTAIN) =
percentage support" [46] formulas were<br>
>>>> suggested; Arnulf suggested that
"charter member" term was misused by<br>
>>>> OSGeo<br>
>>>> in the past and the foundation should
embrace a regular membership<br>
>>>> mechanism<br>
>>>> and even ask for a low annual
membership fee [47].<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I hope I did not make any mistakes and
also did not left important<br>
>>>> information outside this recap. I so,
please correct/add points. Charter<br>
>>>> member elections process is vital to
OSGeo, therefore we should proceed<br>
>>>> further with great care. The time is
also not on our side as we need<br>
>>>> to do<br>
>>>> this before the board elections. Until
now we have the following<br>
>>>> options:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> a. Go with the unmodified 2014
selection process; b. Change the<br>
>>>> threshold<br>
>>>> percent; c. Change the algorithm that
measure the support for a<br>
>>>> nominee; d.<br>
>>>> Change both b and c; e. Change the
selection process from the ground<br>
>>>> (e.g.<br>
>>>> move to regular membership); e. Other
options not expressed until now.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Please take some time, think about the
existing voting system and if/how<br>
>>>> should be improved, and express your
opinion here. Thanks to the<br>
>>>> electronic<br>
>>>> voting system we can put your options
into a survey and all vote for the<br>
>>>> best solution.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Warm regards from sunny Bucharest,<br>
>>>> Vasile<br>
>>>> (your 2015 CRO)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> P.S. Two personal notes after I did
some research about the<br>
>>>> selection/voting<br>
>>>> process in other open source software
organizations: 1) all of them<br>
>>>> seem to<br>
>>>> have difficulties in finding the best
solution (apparently such solution<br>
>>>> does not exist); 2) OSGeo is a very
transparent organization.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.osgeo.org/Membership"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/Membership</a><br>
>>>> [2] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html</a><br>
>>>> [3] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process</a><br>
>>>> [4] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer</a><br>
>>>> [5] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/members/voting_members.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/members/voting_members.html</a><br>
>>>> [6]<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.osgeo.org/content/news/news_archive/open_source_geospatial_founda"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/content/news/news_archive/open_source_geospatial_founda</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> tion_initial_press_release.html.html<br>
>>>> [7]<br>
>>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/meetings/2006_02_04/meeting.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/meetings/2006_02_04/meeting.html</a><br>
>>>> [8] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Charter_Members"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Charter_Members</a><br>
>>>> [9] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-February/000008.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-February/000008.html</a><br>
>>>> [10] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-February/000073.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-February/000073.html</a><br>
>>>> [11] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-March/000132.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-March/000132.html</a><br>
>>>> [12] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-March/000167.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-March/000167.html</a><br>
>>>> [13] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-March/000314.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2006-March/000314.html</a><br>
>>>> [14]<br>
>>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.osgeo.org/content/news/news_archive/board_nom_20060314.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/content/news/news_archive/board_nom_20060314.html</a><br>
>>>> [15] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.osgeo.org/Membership"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/Membership</a><br>
>>>> [16] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2007-March/001558.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2007-March/001558.html</a><br>
>>>> [17] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2007-May/001964.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2007-May/001964.html</a><br>
>>>> [18] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2007-June/002003.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2007-June/002003.html</a><br>
>>>> [19] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2008"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2008</a><br>
>>>> [20] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2008"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2008</a><br>
>>>> [21] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2008-June/003789.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2008-June/003789.html</a><br>
>>>> [22] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2009"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2009</a><br>
>>>> [23] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2009"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2009</a><br>
>>>> [24] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2010"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2010</a><br>
>>>> [25]<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Face_to_Face_Meeting_Barcelona_2010#Meeting_Minut"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Face_to_Face_Meeting_Barcelona_2010#Meeting_Minut</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> es<br>
>>>> [26] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2010"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2010</a><br>
>>>> [27] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2010-November/008312.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2010-November/008312.html</a><br>
>>>> [28] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2011"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2011</a><br>
>>>> [29] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Face_to_Face_Meeting_Denver_2011#Minutes"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Face_to_Face_Meeting_Denver_2011#Minutes</a><br>
>>>> [30] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2011"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2011</a><br>
>>>> [31] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2012"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2012</a><br>
>>>> [32] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2012"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2012</a><br>
>>>> [33] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2013"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2013</a><br>
>>>> [34] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2013"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2013</a><br>
>>>> [35] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2014"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2014</a><br>
>>>> [36] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Electronic_Voting"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Electronic_Voting</a><br>
>>>> [37] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2014"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2014</a><br>
>>>> [38] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2014_detailed_results"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2014_detailed_results</a><br>
>>>> [39] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2015"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2015</a><br>
>>>> [40] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-May/012863.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-May/012863.html</a><br>
>>>> [41] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2015"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2015</a><br>
>>>> [42] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2014-09-13.log"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2014-09-13.log</a><br>
>>>> [43] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-June/012912.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-June/012912.html</a><br>
>>>> [44] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-June/thread.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-June/thread.html</a><br>
>>>> [45] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-June/012945.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-June/012945.html</a><br>
>>>> [46] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-June/012946.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-June/012946.html</a><br>
>>>> [47] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-June/014374.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-June/014374.html</a><br>
>>>>
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href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss"
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