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<div style="direction: ltr;font-family: Tahoma;color: #000000;font-size: 10pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Thanks Cameron, Angelos, Giuseppe , Peter and everyone who contributed to these discussions. I am ccing this to discuss list so that the wider
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">That way, we will get better idea if there is need/demand and a sustaining community who will step up to keep the project maintained with each OSGeo-Live release. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">All - please look though the ideas/inputs below that Cameron summarised for OSGeo-Live sustainable cloud service based discussions we had so far in education and live lists. I</font><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; ">f
you are able to contribute to this , please let us all know. Thanks.</span></div>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Suchith<br>
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<div id="divRpF838030" style="direction: ltr; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> ica-osgeo-labs [ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of Angelos Tzotsos [gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> live-demo; ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I realize that my previous e-mail was not received by the list so I summarize:<br>
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1. OSGeo-Live is already cloud-ready on Synnefo stack<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.synnefo.org/" target="_blank">http://www.synnefo.org/</a><br>
So basically we could deploy synnefo + geneti on OSGeo infrastructure and have a Free Software solution.<br>
Alternatively we could deploy an OpenStack instance.<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstack.org/software/" target="_blank">https://www.openstack.org/software/</a><br>
We should ask SAC if the above options are feasible.<br>
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2. In case we want to deploy OSGeo-Live on AWS, it seems straightforward:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/VMImportPrerequisites.html" target="_blank">http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/VMImportPrerequisites.html</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/" target="_blank">https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/</a><br>
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Any other options in mind?<br>
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Best,<br>
Angelos<br>
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On 10/18/2015 01:32 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Bringing a few different email threads back to one, and answering Suchith's "next steps" question:
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On 16/10/2015 12:43 am, Suchith Anand wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Cameron - from your experiences with OSGeo live community, what do you think is the best way now forward ? Can you please summarise all discussions so far and reply to the public lists.Thanks.
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If we are to be successful at setting up an OSGeo-Live sustainable cloud service, I suggest we consider:
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1. Would a cloud service be used? By who? <br>
I'd suggest that people who want a cloud service speak up, say how you would use an OSGeo-Live cloud service. We are looking here to determine if there is a sustaining community who will step up to keep the project maintained with each OSGeo-Live release.
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2. What are the steps technically required to set up the cloud service? Hopefully someone will step up to do the research on what is required, and will set up a Proof-of-Concept.
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3. What will hosting a cloud service cost? Would it be a pay-as-you-use model? Would we be asking the OSGeo Foundation to sponsor? Would we be asking workshop providers to pay for the service?
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I suspect that we could ask the OSGeo Foundation for base funding to prove a Proof of Concept (by paying for a cloud service for 1 year or so), but ask workshop providers and other users to pay for the service in moving forward.
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This is something that can be decided once costs are understood. <br>
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4. But the bottom line is that the best chance of success will occur if someone stands up and champions its development. Do we have someone interested to do the hard work of making it happen? (Speak up if interested). It certainly would be a valuable contribution
to the OSGeo community. <br>
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Warm regards, Cameron <br>
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On 14/10/2015 7:59 pm, Peter Baumann wrote: <br>
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<blockquote type="cite">> 1.Do you think it is important to have a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM
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not necessarily a cloud, as the whole OSGeo Live is not prepared. <br>
But definitely hosting it on a VM (for easy cloning + move) is an asset - any <br>
demo just needs to show a URL then. <br>
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> 2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this possible <br>
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find a caretaker with a machine. <br>
Jacobs University can do that, for example, in tight collaboration with Angelos <br>
on technical level. <br>
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-Peter <br>
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On 15/10/2015 2:53 am, Giuseppe Amatulli wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi, <br>
under the <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.spatial-ecology.net/" target="_blank">
http://www.spatial-ecology.net/</a> initiative we use the the OSGeo-Llive for courses and intensive training in Geo Computation.
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In this line we have been used also Amazon Web Service to teach remote connection and scripting routines in the cloud. For this I was customize a Ubuntu Instance very similar to the OSGeo-Llive.
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Nonetheless, would be grate to have the OSGeo-Llive directly hosted in AWS to allow teach but also to provide to the course participants something that they can use after the course.
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The AWS Educate <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/" target="_blank">
<https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/></a> provide grants for education so maybe an official cooperation OSGeo&AWS can be a solution to host for free a OSGeo-Llive Instance
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Best Regards <br>
Giuseppe <br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 10/13/2015 05:57 PM, Suchith Anand wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">>Hi all, <br>
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>Myself, Maria and Peter are now at ESA event and had a chance to catch up on ideas for future to expand education globally.
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>I also remembered that few months back, we had an initial discussion on the importance of having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM to help running workshops at conferences, training events etc. Venka made this idea in one of the Geo4All AB discussions
on workshops at FOSS4G Bonn that i copy below <br>
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>"Instead of buying 80-100 computers, it could be a worth considering to pay for a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM. Maybe one of our sponsoring companies could be approached to deploy such OSGeo Software as a Service solution.Such service could be
made available to any event/institution wishing to run their own workshops anywhere place on earth with a good internet connection and thin client. For subsequent events or users could be charged to cover cost of cloud hosting and paying for some developers
to maintain the system.If the experiment is successful, we can think of replicating it in our globally through our local chapters."
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>Me, Maria and Peter in our discussions today, thought it is good time to start doing something about this and have this for scaling up our education and training needs globally. So it will be good to get ideas from key people, so i request you all to give
your thoughts/ideas. <br>
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>1.Do you think it is important to have a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM.
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>2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this possible <br>
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>Looking forward to your inputs. <br>
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>Suchith <br>
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