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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=NL link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>First: I took the opportunity to change the subject of this thread to a less shouting version (CAPS LOCK and spam live side-by-side on my email-irritation-scale)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Second: Funny to see how the use of two different channels (mailing list vs. MailChimp) kind of reflect the different approaches to reach the -more of less- same goal.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Any expanding organisation / movement / community comes to a point where the classical channels (like a mailing list) reach their limits, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>and "new" marketing (yuch! marketing==ugly & bad!) channels & methods may help to stretch beyond borders. Which comes at a cost (as Maxi tries to tell, I guess).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Food for thought for the Board face2face meeting in January (and for the entire community) to determine <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>- what our goals are<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>- what our values are<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>- and how these two compare to each other.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kind regards, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Gert-Jan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>Namens </b>Rob Emanuele<br><b>Verzonden:</b> dinsdag 15 december 2015 21:51<br><b>Aan:</b> David Bianco<br><b>CC:</b> OSGeo Discussions<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - SOMEONE IS WATCHING YOU :-o<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hey David,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The emails on the mailing list were cultivated by past FOSS4G NA attendees, people opting in in other ways, and from lists that were given by members of this and last year's committee. If we're spamming people who didn't opt in, it is not intentional and apologies for the spam (the world certainly doesn't need more spam). We'll take a look at the list moving forward to try to prevent from sending emails to anyone who didn't opt in.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rob<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:48 PM, David Bianco <<a href="mailto:me@davidbianco.net" target="_blank">me@davidbianco.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I believe MailChimp has policies against adding emails to your list without a user's authorization.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/" target="_blank">http://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Dec 15, 2015, at 10:16, Rob Emanuele wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for pointing out that it wasn't yet posted to OSGeo-Discuss, I just posted it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>There's a one-click unsubscribe button from that mailing list, sorry for the spam!<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Massimiliano Cannata <<a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" target="_blank">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Just a funny note...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Nice to see that LocationTech has a FOSS4G email (!!!! WOW!!!!!) <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>and..... <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>that all the link on the received e-mail are connected with my user_id (I have one????? Yes) <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>and.... <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>that they are tracked (!!! without inform me !!!) <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>and... <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>that I have been added to a list that i'm not subscribed.... (<a href="http://mailchimp.com/about/mcsv/" target="_blank">http://mailchimp.com/about/mcsv/</a>)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Where did they get my e-mail from?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>why thy didn't simply post the news to the discussion-osgeo list?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>what do they want to track?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>If you want to see the FOSS4G-NA without been traced here is the link <a href="https://2016.foss4g-na.org/" target="_blank">https://2016.foss4g-na.org/</a></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>#SPAM #NOT-SO-FAIR #LIKE-MICROSOFT-THAT-SPY-ME #SCARY<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Maxi<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'>Massimiliano Cannata</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>Responsabile settore Geomatica</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>Istituto scienze della Terra</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'>Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>Campus Trevano, CH - 6952 Canobbio</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>Tel. <a href="tel:%2B41%20%280%2958%20666%2062%2014" target="_blank">+41 (0)58 666 62 14</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>Fax <a href="tel:%2B41%20%280%2958%20666%2062%2009" target="_blank">+41 (0)58 666 62 09</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'><a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" target="_blank">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><u><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'><a href="http://www.supsi.ch/ist" target="_blank">www.supsi.ch/ist</a></span></u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Discuss mailing list<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u>_______________________________________________</u><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Discuss mailing list<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>Discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>