<div dir="ltr">Big +1</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Paul Ramsey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pramsey@cleverelephant.ca" target="_blank">pramsey@cleverelephant.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Agree w/ Daniel in all ways. We want our events to succeed, no? So we<br>
use marketing techniques to do so. Emails and so on. And we track who<br>
opens them so we can get better at marketing. Like any other business<br>
trying to succeed. Mail chimp is currently convenient, in the past<br>
other technologies were convenient (I spammed people in 2007 using a<br>
custom perl script, because I am a God Among Men), in the future<br>
different technologies will be convenient. But they are all going<br>
towards making a good event.<br>
<br>
Naturally the first targets of marketing the event will be people who<br>
have attended past events under the same/similar umbrella. I provided<br>
the 2007 attendance list to foss4g events for a number of years until<br>
it had grown entirely stale. I felt good about it. I revelled in the<br>
goodness of it.<br>
<br>
I have spammed. I will spam again, in the service of a good cause.<br>
That is my weakness. That is my strength.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Daniel Morissette<br>
<<a href="mailto:dmorissette@mapgears.com">dmorissette@mapgears.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On 2015-12-16 10:00 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On 2015/12/16 18:37, Pat Tressel wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> MailChimp is a very popular product. If you have a provable accusation<br>
>>> against them -- that they were acting **independently of the account<br>
>>> administrator** to alter lists, then that would be significant. As Rob<br>
>>> has stated, MailChimp did not do something by itself. The list was<br>
>>> aggregated from previous lists and events in which people participated.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I have also received a similar unsolicited mail. I would like to know<br>
>> who has authorized<br>
>> the aggregation and usage of email address from "previous lists and<br>
>> events in which<br>
>> people participated". I think every event has a privacy policy and<br>
>> e-mail address provided<br>
>> are only to be used for communicating about the specific event and not<br>
>> for aggregating for<br>
>> future use.<br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
> For the record, the use of such mailing services for FOSS4G promotion is not<br>
> new. Even FOSS4G 2015 (Seoul) used MailChimp in a very similar way, I still<br>
> have some of their mails in my archives, and I'm sure other past events did<br>
> as well but I didn't bother digging any further.<br>
><br>
> How can you realistically expect to do outreach to new people if you only<br>
> announce your event on osgeo-discuss?<br>
><br>
> This anti-anything-locationtech-does drama is becoming boring, please let's<br>
> get over it.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Daniel Morissette<br>
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