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<div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">I fully agree that everyone should respect the OSGeo code of conduct and be respectful in the way the facts are presented.</font></div>
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<div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">I think OSGeo have done our job of highlighting the importance of standards in <span style="line-height: 22px; ">LiDAR data formats through our open letter in May 2015. OGC have set up a process and it is ongoing,
so i request everyone to be patient. You are right, </span>OSGeo Board is only a few volunteers, representing a large body of volunteers, so we should not overburden them with additional loads. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">It is now for OGC colleagues to continue to guide the process forward and i request everyone to work together step by step for this. It is important to be patient , listen to all viewpoints and slowly build consensus.
I hope all stakeholders will work together in the common objective of Open Standards in LiDAR for the benefit of the wider geo community.</font></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 22, 2015 8:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Carl Reed; Suchith Anand<br>
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<div>Hi Suchith, Sergio, Micha,<br>
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Thanks Carl for highlighting the importance of mutual respect. OSGeo also has a Code-Of-Conduct [1] with similar sentiment to OGC:<br>
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</i><i>Be careful in the words that we choose.</i><i><br>
</i><i>Whether we are participating as professionals or volunteers, we value professionalism in all interactions, and take responsibility for our own speech. Be kind to others. Do not insult or put down other participants.</i><i><br>
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The content of the text being referenced is pushing the boundaries of our Code of Conduct [1] by making fun of another organisation.<br>
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I suggest that we wish to raise this point with the OGC, then reword, focusing just on the facts, and ideally be respectful in the way the facts are presented.<br>
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Hi Suchith,<br>
I suggest being careful to not over-promise what OSGeo will do (in this case responding to a letter), unless you are volunteering to do it yourself on behalf of OSGeo. The OSGeo Board is only a few volunteers, representing a large body of volunteers. We can
do much, but we do it as volunteers.<br>
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[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct" target="_blank">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/12/2015 6:27 am, Carl Reed wrote:<br>
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<div>The OGC has a formal Principals of Conduct Policy. I wrote and maintained the policy with the agreement and approval of the OGC membership.</div>
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<div>This policy was initially based on the IETF conduct policy.</div>
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<div>Please read sections 3.a and 3.b as they have to do with how OGC members interact with one another as well as with the broader community.</div>
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<div>So before "stirring the pot" on the LiDAR topic again, consider the Conduct policy as guidance on consensus building.</div>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Thank you for bringing this to our attention. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">The OSGeo Foundation will respond formally to this in due course as we had initiated this open letter for <span style="line-height:22px">the need for standards in LiDAR data formats [1], [2]</span>. I request OSGeo
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">But first we will wait for response from the Open Geospatial Consortium - who as per their website is <span style="background-color:rgb(246,246,246); line-height:22px">committed to making quality open standards for
the global geospatial community and have been working on this by setting up a Point Cloud DWG. We have put our trust in OGC in this process , so let us first get the response from OGC. I am ccing Scott Simmons of OGC to get their response.</span></font></div>
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<div>[1] <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter</a> </div>
<div>[2] <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-May/014222.html" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-May/014222.html</a></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 22, 2015 1:55 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] [OSGeo-Discuss] Do you remember this?<br>
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<div>Here's the continuation:<br>
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<p>I remember discussing this in April: "Open Letter for the need for Open Standards in LiDAR"; now I found this interesting post: <a href="http://rapidlasso.com/2015/12/19/the-darc-force-awakens-esri-escalates-lidar-format-war/" target="_blank"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://rapidlasso.com/2015/12/19/the-darc-force-awakens-esri-escalates-lidar-format-war/" target="_blank">http://rapidlasso.com/2015/12/19/the-darc-force-awakens-esri-escalates-lidar-format-war/</a><br>
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<p>Is the empire striking back?<br>
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