<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style='font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;'>Hi Oliver,<br>I can certainly see how meeting would help communities; as you say, that's how humans work. But what about the even bigger (global) community?<br><br>Looking at the participant list, that Paris code-sprint entailed at least 10 transatlantic flights and probably at least that many short-haul (pan-Europe) flights too (which have higher emissions profiles per passenger mile). I don't doubt a lot of useful work was done, but was the quantity and quality of the work so much superior to the normal-work-from-home/office option that it was worth the considerable extra pollution that the sprint generated?<br><br>This is obviously not something that can be easily quantified (although I'm sure a few PhD's are trying), but I believe it should be considered when these sorts of events are sponsored. Otherwise you can easily end up with a Tragedy of the Commons situation.<br>A quick search doesn't find any sort of ethical/green/social-responsibility policy on OSGeo's pages...<br><br>Cheers,<br>Jonathan<br><br>(p.s. excellent use of "anchorite" - I can't say I've seen that word before!)<br><div class="zmail_extra"><div id="1"><br>---- On Tue, 08 Mar 2016 11:19:15 +0000 <b>Oliver Courtin<olivier.courtin@oslandia.com></b> wrote ---- <br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid #0000FF; padding-left: 6px; margin:0 0 0 5px">Le 8 mars 2016 à 09:34, Sandro Santilli a écrit :<br><br>Sandro,<br><br><br>> This is not to say that Paul work wasn't needed <br><br>Thanks for him ^^<br><br>And he -also- did a great job, with leading several devs <br>who never yet send code to PostGIS trunk (but really motivated to).<br><br>Kind of thing that can't really be done remotely.<br>Kind of thing we could hope lead to enlarge later PostGIS devs circle.<br><br>> Donating some fun to core developers is surely appreciated [..]<br>> but is just to stress out that it doesn't<br>> take being in the same room at the same time to move a project forward.<br><br>Obviously we tried to get some fun (in Paris). And hope we did.<br><br><br>But real point is to share time together with projects in mind.<br>Point is to strengthen, again, devs community.<br><br>Because beside code, there's humans.<br>And humans who truly need to cooperate.<br><br><br><br><br>And we know since the very first C tribe sprint in Toronto (thanks Paul),<br>that once a year spending few days together is valuable for our projects.<br><br>Because no, moving a project forward is not -only- a closing tickets stuff.<br><br><br><br>You didn't want to come Sandro, this time, for your own reasons, <br>and i'm fine with that, and respect it.<br>(even if you missed, at the very least on PostGIS talks).<br><br><br>But if anachoret way of life could be an answer for a single,<br>it's something that can hardly be for a community.<br>:)<br><br><br>> but I think reliable infrastructure to improve open collaboration<br>> is still the best investiment for a software foundation.<br><br><br>Why an OR ?<br>It have to be an AND.<br><br><br>O.<br>_______________________________________________<br>Discuss mailing list<br><a subj="" mailid="Discuss%40lists.osgeo.org" href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a></blockquote><br></div><br></div></body></html>