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OpenHub knows 66 code contributors, and they do not even know (and
list) all over time. Hence, cannot see anyone felt discouraged.
Typical rasdaman contributors are interested in design by innovation
and not design by committee, and that community spirit has made
rasdaman a leading tool that wins all benchmarks over GeoServer,
SPARK, etc.<br>
-Peter<br>
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PS: suggesting a fork just because OSGeo follows a narrow principle
that does not accommodate rasdaman makes me frown about the ideals
behind :)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/12/2016 02:57 PM, Ian Turton
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<div dir="ltr">I've been trying to stay out of the arguments about
governance models because I prefer to write code than worry
about licences or governance. But it may help if I share a some
anecdotes (which is almost data) about a couple of FOSS projects
that came out of academia when I was in charge. One of these you
may well have heard of GeoTools, which forms the base library of
GeoServer, UDig, GeoMesa and others, the other you may not know
GeoVista Studio.
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<div>Both these libraries started out as academic projects that
solved a research problem, both were open sourced as a result
of the university claiming all the intellectual property of
it's staff for ever (so why not give it away?) in both cases I
(and James Macgil) were benevolent dictators when the projects
launched, it was a simple governance model that left us able
to get on with coding and researching and meant that things
went the way we wanted. GeoTools started to get some users and
people started asking for bug fixes and new features etc while
James & I had actual jobs to do and wanted to spend time
with our families and go on holiday etc. So we got some more
people involved such as TOPP and Refractions and we sort of
lucked into a PSC and GeoTools went from strength to strength
and now has a PSC that spans the globe (which makes meeting
times hard to find but is otherwise awesome). In fact for a
while GeoTools and GeoServer managed (or thrived) with no
input from me or James at all. However GeoVISTA studio, only
went open source grudgingly (the PI's didn't want to give up
control really) and never really gained more than a few users
because we didn't allow other people to influence the
direction of development (after all the university/PI was
paying for the development) and thus there were only ever two
or three developers. As BD I had no real interest in
attracting new users (previous experience had taught me that's
hard work). Once James and then I moved on to other jobs
development stopped (though <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/geovistastudio/files/">apparently
someone downloaded a copy last week)</a>.</div>
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<div>I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions but my feeling
is that to make the move from an academic to successful FOSS
project you need to move from dictatorship to committee run
projects. If nothing else it allows you some down time from
running the project while never needing to give up having a
say in the running.</div>
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<div>PS Some recent emails have tried to suggest that
governance doesn't matter if you have forkability but I
think that is a flawed view - but if it is true maybe we
could just fork RASDAMAN and be done with the discussion?
:-)</div>
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- Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
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