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- <span class="presenter">Kamalika Das (</span>NASA - Ames Research
Center), Thomas Clune (NASA Goddard Space Flight Center), Kwo-Sen
Kuo (Earth System Science Interdisciplinary Center), Chris A
Mattmann (Jet Propulsion Laboratory), Thomas Huang (NASA Jet
Propulsion Laboratory), Daniel Duffy (NASA Center for Climate
Simulation), Chaowei Phil Yang (George Mason University Fairfax, Ted
Habermann<span class="roleAffiliation"></span> (HDF Group)<span
class="roleAffiliation"></span>: Evaluation of Big Data Containers
for Popular Storage, Retrieval, and Computation Primitives in Earth
Science Analysis . Poster, AGU Fall 2015. (Have only a bad take of a
diagram, see attached)<br>
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- G. Merticariu, D. Misev, P. Baumann: <em>Measuring Storage Access
Performance in Array Databases</em>. Proc. 7th Workshop on Big
Data Benchmarking (WBDB), December 14-15, 2015, New Delhi, India<br>
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- rasdaman 30x faster than GeoServer (oral communication by DWD on a
test conducted by DLR and EUMETSAT)<br>
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More under way by several groups.<br>
-Peter<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/14/2016 03:00 PM, Rob Emanuele
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<p dir="ltr">Hi Peter,</p>
<p dir="ltr">This is the second time I've heard you defend your
position by simply saying the greatness of the project justifies
whatever model you'd like for project governance, and mention
some independent study that claims your software is "way faster"
and "wins all benchmarks". These are bold, general and
unqualified claims that I would greatly like to understand in a
more detailed way. Please site your sources.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Best,<br>
Rob</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On May 14, 2016 5:43 AM, "Peter Baumann"
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> OpenHub knows 66 code
contributors, and they do not even know (and list) all over
time. Hence, cannot see anyone felt discouraged. Typical
rasdaman contributors are interested in design by innovation
and not design by committee, and that community spirit has
made rasdaman a leading tool that wins all benchmarks over
GeoServer, SPARK, etc.<br>
-Peter<br>
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PS: suggesting a fork just because OSGeo follows a narrow
principle that does not accommodate rasdaman makes me frown
about the ideals behind :)<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I've been trying to stay out of the
arguments about governance models because I prefer to
write code than worry about licences or governance. But
it may help if I share a some anecdotes (which is almost
data) about a couple of FOSS projects that came out of
academia when I was in charge. One of these you may well
have heard of GeoTools, which forms the base library of
GeoServer, UDig, GeoMesa and others, the other you may
not know GeoVista Studio.
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<div>Both these libraries started out as academic
projects that solved a research problem, both were
open sourced as a result of the university claiming
all the intellectual property of it's staff for ever
(so why not give it away?) in both cases I (and James
Macgil) were benevolent dictators when the projects
launched, it was a simple governance model that left
us able to get on with coding and researching and
meant that things went the way we wanted. GeoTools
started to get some users and people started asking
for bug fixes and new features etc while James & I
had actual jobs to do and wanted to spend time with
our families and go on holiday etc. So we got some
more people involved such as TOPP and Refractions and
we sort of lucked into a PSC and GeoTools went from
strength to strength and now has a PSC that spans the
globe (which makes meeting times hard to find but is
otherwise awesome). In fact for a while GeoTools and
GeoServer managed (or thrived) with no input from me
or James at all. However GeoVISTA studio, only went
open source grudgingly (the PI's didn't want to give
up control really) and never really gained more than a
few users because we didn't allow other people to
influence the direction of development (after all the
university/PI was paying for the development) and thus
there were only ever two or three developers. As BD I
had no real interest in attracting new users (previous
experience had taught me that's hard work). Once James
and then I moved on to other jobs development stopped
(though <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/geovistastudio/files/"
target="_blank">apparently someone downloaded a copy
last week)</a>.</div>
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<div>I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions but my
feeling is that to make the move from an academic to
successful FOSS project you need to move from
dictatorship to committee run projects. If nothing
else it allows you some down time from running the
project while never needing to give up having a say in
the running.</div>
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<div>PS Some recent emails have tried to suggest that
governance doesn't matter if you have forkability
but I think that is a flawed view - but if it is
true maybe we could just fork RASDAMAN and be done
with the discussion? :-)</div>
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<div>Ian Turton<br>
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Dr. Peter Baumann
- Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
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- Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.rasdaman.com">www.rasdaman.com</a>, mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:baumann@rasdaman.com">baumann@rasdaman.com</a>
tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882
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