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    Hi Marco,<br>
    You might want to re-read the OSGeo Incubation Checklist [1], which
    is quite clear in the definition of a graduated OSGeo project.<br>
    (It is option 1 by your definition below).<br>
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    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html</a><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/05/2016 3:45 am, Marco Afonso
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      <p dir="ltr">Hi all,</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Could some answer what is the % of the ponderation
        weight of software quality and the % of the  ponderation weight
        of the project organization in incubation decision?</p>
      <p dir="ltr">The first criteria is technologicaly measureable.<br>
        The second is not.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Your evaluation method open the following
        possibilities:</p>
      <p dir="ltr">1. Never accept a new project with high quality
        software but a lower evaluation of the project comunity.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">2. Accept low quality of software with high project
        comunity.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">3. Accept a project with high comunity evaluation but
        with old or deprecated software.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">So, to me, seems that you are giving too much weight
        on the social aspect (hardly measurable) of the project, instead
        of giving weight to software quality (technologicaly measurable)
        which is fundamental to your criteria of being for production :)</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Marco<br>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">Em 15/05/2016 17:40, "Ian Turton" <<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ijturton@gmail.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ijturton@gmail.com">ijturton@gmail.com</a></a>>
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          <p dir="ltr">Marco, </p>
          <p dir="ltr">I think you have missed the point of my tales,
            both the projects that I wrote about are open source (by any
            definition) but only the one with an open organisation is
            thriving. </p>
          <p dir="ltr">OSGeo is designed to support open and sustainable
            development of geospatial solutions. A benevolent
            dictatorship is a fragile model of governance and so can not
            be acceptable to us as a foundation. </p>
          <p dir="ltr">The (perceived) quality of the software is of no
            importance in this discussion if the project fails due to a
            lack of community. </p>
          <p dir="ltr">Ian </p>
          <p dir="ltr">PS open hub notes geotools has 241 contributors
            if we are measuring success in these metrics. <br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On 15 May 2016 14:40, "Marco Afonso"
            <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:mafonso333@gmail.com" target="_blank">mafonso333@gmail.com</a>>
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              <p dir="ltr">Hi Anita,</p>
              <p dir="ltr">Aha! So there is a ponderation weight on
                software quality evaluation AND project organization
                evaluation.</p>
              <p dir="ltr">So you can exclude an open source software
                with high quality if their organization evaluation is
                low.</p>
              <p dir="ltr">For me that seems wrong. A software on a
                public repository is only limited by it's licence terms,
                or unlimited at all. :)</p>
              <p dir="ltr">Cheers</p>
              <div class="gmail_quote">Em 15/05/2016 13:14, "Anita
                Graser" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:anitagraser@gmx.at" target="_blank">anitagraser@gmx.at</a>>
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                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi
                      Marco,</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 15, 2016 at
                        1:18 PM, Marco Afonso <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
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                          <p dir="ltr">Once the software (as an object)
                            is available on a public repository, it only
                            matters it's license terms to evaluate it's
                            restrictions. From there, it is irrelevant
                            "whos behind it".</p>
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                            style="font-size:small">​Here I have to
                            strongly disagree. Imho, the job of OSGeo
                            incubation is to evaluate a software project
                            (software and organisation) therefore it
                            makes no sense to limit discussions to
                            software quality.</div>
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                            style="font-size:small">Best wishes,</div>
                          <div class="gmail_default"
                            style="font-size:small">Anita​</div>
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