<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">I'd be interested to hear opinions of others in the field as to
whether Rasdaman community version is of value for real-world
production systems by itself.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I guess that would depend on the needs of the production system itself, and I'm not sure the OSGeo inclusion should be</div><div>based on how capable the software is... in short, I'd stay away from this criteria.</div><div><br></div><div>However I believe this discussion raise an important point, it does not make sense to talk about Rasdaman without qualification,</div><div>it makes sense to talk about Rasdaman CE and Rasdaman Enterprise, any discussion about the abilities of the software,</div><div>benchmarks and the like, should be properly qualified by the version of it.</div><div><br></div><div>I agree OSGeo should be mostly concerned about the CE version, and how open it actually is. </div><div>Like, if someone develops an extension to it that mimics some of the enterprise functionality, will it be welcomed in the project?</div><div>That is the most important aspect, the "open core" model has a clear tendency to keep the core version limited to</div><div>show better value in the paid for version, but the community around the core version should not be pressured to stay away</div><div>from improvements that would hurt the money making brother of it.</div><div><br></div><div>While we are on the topic, there are also gray areas in which this model tends to fall into, which can ruffle some feathers as well.</div><div>Say someone develops an improvement for the core version that is competitive, to some level, with some functionality of the enterprise version,</div><div>and the company decides to "donate" the equivalent code because it's better developed, better tested, faster, more scalable</div><div>and so on.</div><div>This tends to hurt feelings on both sides, the community developer may feel walked over, his/her code dumped in the thrash,</div><div>the company may feel like it's been held hostage of some ransom, by having to donate its superior code over the </div><div>lower quality one offered by the community (of course, it could be the case that the community offers something better,</div><div>but if that point is reached, the death bell is probably starting to sing for the open core approach).</div><div><br></div><div>To some extend that's unavoidable I'm afraid, but I believe that OSGeo should at least be concerned that the</div><div>community version is treated like a full open source project and everybody feels empowered to pitch into it according</div><div>to their needs and abilities.</div><div><br></div><div>Then there is another topic of discussion, which is whether OSGeo agrees with a dual licensing model to start with,</div><div>given the obvious tension that it generates between a open community and the company benefiting from it.</div><div>Peter cites the need to make a honest living doing open source, and the open core module as a way to reach that objective.</div><div>As a long time open source developer involved in single licence software I never felt like I was underpaid or </div><div>mistreated, even when I have clear vision of companies making money off work that sometimes I did over holidays...</div><div>I simply knew what I was getting myself into, and what the consequences of an open license are.</div><div>That said, I do appreciate that people want to get an honest living and work in open source at the same time, it's</div><div>simply too good of an opportunity to miss.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Andrea</div><div><br></div></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>==</div><div>GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! 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