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charset=utf-8" /></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Cameron,<br>
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Yes, your point was very hard to miss. I don't think you need to police this thread quite so hard though. :-)<br>
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For what it's worth, it makes good business & innovation sense to do more than 1% or so.<br>
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YMMV though,<br>
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Andrea<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 30, 2016 10:54:06 PM EDT, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Marc, Andrea,<br />
My point I'm hoping to make is that I think we might be spending
more time discussing ethical code-of-conduct type questions than I
think we need to. Yes it is important. Yes we need to flag bad
behaviour and resolve it. But hopefully we can limit such
discussions to 1% (or so) of our bandwidth - which we achieve by
referencing our code-of-conduct.<br />
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Disclaimer - I'm a privileged white male, living in a democratic
country, and I'm used to expecting good behaviour to be the norm.<br />
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Warm regards, Cameron<br />
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/05/2016 9:48 AM, Andrea Ross
wrote:<br />
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<blockquote cite="mid:574CD140.2010002@eclipse.org" type="cite">That's
an unexpected response. Was someone suggesting OSGeo should be a
forum for human rights?</blockquote>
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On 31/05/2016 9:28 AM, Marc Vloemans wrote:<br />
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<div>Cameron,</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">I think you misunderstood the aim of
my comment.</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">I am not talking about human rights
as such. (Unless they are threatened, of course)</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">I am addressing the need to guard and
promote our inclusivity. If we want to grow and develop as a
community we need to take any past/present/future concern about
it seriously. </div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">That is an integral part of our
marketing and communications effort: avoid wrong perceptions and
manage our public image where/when possible. Whether such
perceptions address the nature of our code, our projects, our
members, our organisation and its policies or our activities.</div>
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Hope this clarifies, cheers,
<div>Marc Vloemans</div>
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Op 30 mei 2016 om 23:28 heeft Cameron Shorter <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
het volgende geschreven:<br />
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<p>All,</p>
<p>While I'm hugely in favour of mutual respect, and I
personally co-authored the OSGeo Code-Of-Conduct, I feel
that OSGeo shouldn't aim to be a forum for human rights.
(There are other places for this).<br />
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<p>Our primary focus should be on supporting the creation of
great OSGeo code, and supporting the communities doing this.</p>
<p>Having a Code-Of-Conduct in place is a small part of
supporting a community, and we should refer to it in cases
where conversations or interactions deviate from good
behavior, but I'm hopeful that we can leave it at that, and
focus our time on our core code writing passions.</p>
<p>Warm regards, Cameron<br />
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/05/2016 7:30 pm, Marc
Vloemans wrote:<br />
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<blockquote cite="mid:A53C6B8B-009C-4AA7-B411-A4D018566ED3@gmail.com" type="cite">
<div>Thanks Andrea,</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">You are quite right,
unfortunately. Sharing and discussing experiences and
insights on this could come across as negative.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">The same happened when I read
an earlier discussion on a Code of Conduct for
conferences. Frankly I was abhorred that such code was
deemed necessary. Until I realised that I was perhaps
ignorant (living in Amsterdam is such a privilege).</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Can I invite you to share your
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