<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Cameron,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I think you misunderstood the aim of my comment.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I am not talking about human rights as such. (Unless they are threatened, of course)</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I am addressing the need to guard and promote our inclusivity. If we want to grow and develop as a community we need to take any past/present/future concern about it seriously. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">That is an integral part of our marketing and communications effort: avoid wrong perceptions and manage our public image where/when possible. Whether such perceptions address the nature of our code, our projects, our members, our organisation and its policies or our activities.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>Hope this clarifies, cheers,<div>Marc Vloemans</div><div><br></div></div><div><br>Op 30 mei 2016 om 23:28 heeft Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> het volgende geschreven:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <p>All,</p>
    <p>While I'm hugely in favour of mutual respect, and I personally
      co-authored the OSGeo Code-Of-Conduct, I feel that OSGeo shouldn't
      aim to be a forum for human rights. (There are other places for
      this).<br>
    </p>
    <p>Our primary focus should be on supporting the creation of great
      OSGeo code, and supporting the communities doing this.</p>
    <p>Having a Code-Of-Conduct in place is a small part of supporting a
      community, and we should refer to it in cases where conversations
      or interactions deviate from good behavior, but I'm hopeful that
      we can leave it at that, and focus our time on our core code
      writing passions.</p>
    <p>Warm regards, Cameron<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/05/2016 7:30 pm, Marc Vloemans
      wrote:<br>
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      <div>Thanks Andrea,</div>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">You are quite right, unfortunately.
        Sharing and discussing experiences and insights on this could
        come across as negative.</div>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">The same happened when I read an
        earlier discussion on a Code of Conduct for conferences. Frankly
        I was abhorred that such code was deemed necessary. Until I
        realised that I was perhaps ignorant (living in Amsterdam is
        such a privilege).</div>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">Can I invite you to share your
        list-of-thoughts regarding potential pitfalls for a Conference
        at least with me (marcvloemans1[at]<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a>)? It would be such a
        shame if we unintentionally overlook the obvious!</div>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">Cheers,</div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>
        <div>Marc Vloemans</div>
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        Op 30 mei 2016 om 03:49 heeft Andrea Ross <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:andrea.ross@eclipse.org"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:andrea.ross@eclipse.org">andrea.ross@eclipse.org</a>>
        het volgende geschreven:<br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Marc,<br>
            <br>
            I started to write a whole bunch of thoughts related to this
            but instead decided against as I felt it was stating the
            obvious and I didn't want the thoughts to be perceived as
            negative.<br>
            <br>
            The essence was that these things  you have listed are
            great, and they help keep things from being screwed up, but
            they're not the hard work that it takes to really make a
            difference. So good, but so much more is needed.<br>
            <br>
            Kind regards,<br>
            <br>
            Andrea<br>
            <br>
            On 28/05/16 11:26, Marc Vloemans wrote:<br>
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            <div>Dear all,</div>
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            <div>To build upon the positive results as mentioned in the
              thread below, I invite anyone to supply any suggestion
              that may support the LOC FOSS4G 2016 in Bonn Germany,
              regarding diversity related policies during the actual
              Conference. Either directly to me or via this list.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>As LOC we strive to be aware that public policies and
              personal experiences vary per continent, region, country
              and/or province. However, living in Western-Europe we
              sometimes are unaware how fortunate we are! That could
              hinder us in anticipating potential fears, uncertainties
              and doubts that visitors to Bonn may have.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>For starters, please note the following from <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Germany"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Germany">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Germany</a> :</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>"<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255,
                0);">Germany has become the first country in Europe to
                enact a law that allows German citizens to choose to
                neither identify as male or female on their birth
                certificate, which has been said to specifically
                benefit <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphrodites" title="Hermaphrodites" class="mw-redirect" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px;
                  line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;
                  background-image: none; text-decoration: none;">hermaphrodites</a> and <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex" title="Intersex" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
                  border: 0px; line-height: inherit; vertical-align:
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                  none;">intersex</a> persons."</span></div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Unfortunately same sex marriage is still 'under
              construction', but that does not reflect negatively on a
              number of laws protecting the rights of the LGBTI
              community (including registered partnership).</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Best regards and hopefully we meet in Bonn,</div>
            <div>
              <div>
                <div>Marc Vloemans</div>
                <div><br>
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            <div><br>
              <div><br>
                <br>
                Vriendelijke groet,
                <div>Marc Vloemans</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
              </div>
              Op 28 mei 2016 om 03:04 heeft Andrea Ross <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:andrea.ross@eclipse.org"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:andrea.ross@eclipse.org">andrea.ross@eclipse.org</a>>
              het volgende geschreven:<br>
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Kristin, Everyone<br>
                  <br>
                  The sex/gender split was similar for FOSS4G NA 2016 as
                  FOSS4G NA 2015. In the range of 25 to 30 percent women
                  for both speakers and attendees. We don't ask people
                  their gender as part of submitting or registering, so
                  this is obviously a best effort from having met a
                  number of folks, and discretely Google-stalking them
                  just a little.<br>
                  <br>
                  We probably had a record high number of trans people
                  participate, despite North Carolina's HB2. Also
                  because of HB2, many LGBT people reached out to me
                  before the conference to understand what was being
                  done, and to help decide whether to boycott or not. We
                  are so grateful that so many did not boycott, and came
                  anyway. It was a moving experience for me to learn how
                  big the LGBT part of the community is and get a bit of
                  the sense of how important the work they're doing is.<br>
                  <br>
                  Also, I want to call out the exemplary work of the
                  Raleigh Convention Center. They really went above and
                  beyond to ensure our attendees were safe and
                  comfortable. So far as I know, there were zero
                  instances of harassment of LGBT people. Laurie Okun
                  from the Convention Center in particular was a
                  superstar and so impressive & professional from
                  our first contact when trying to assess Raleigh,
                  through the chaos that HB2 inflicted, and to the
                  post-conference follow-up. We are grateful.<br>
                  <br>
                  So many good things to note. I also want to note that
                  it is still a mostly white conference. So the job is
                  not done, and there's still much more important work
                  to be done.<br>
                  <br>
                  Kind regards,<br>
                  <br>
                  Andrea<br>
                  <br>
                  On 27/05/16 17:28, Kristin Bott wrote:<br>
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                    <div class="gmail_extra">Thanks for sharing the
                      synopsis; I'm especially encouraged by (1) gender
                      (identity) parity in the planning committee (2)
                      strong presence of female-identifying folk at the
                      conference and (3) continued financial support for
                      attendees.</div>
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                    <div class="gmail_extra">I'd be curious what the
                      gender split was across attendees v. speakers --
                      possibly something worth tracking across years of
                      conferences to get a sense of any shifts in
                      attendee demographics.</div>
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                    <div class="gmail_extra">cheers -</div>
                    <div class="gmail_extra">-k.bott</div>
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 27, 2016 at
                        7:09 AM, Mark Lucas <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mlucas17@mac.com" target="_blank"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mlucas17@mac.com">mlucas17@mac.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          <div style="word-wrap:break-word">I had the
                            pleasure of serving as the OSGeo
                            representative for the 2016 FOSS4G NA
                            conference selection and planning.  I
                            thought the team did an excellent job in
                            selecting, planning and running the
                            conference.  The team made the decision to
                            not pursue a 2017 NA conference so as not to
                            compete for resources with the OSGeo
                            international conference.  Our efforts will
                            focus on 2018 planning and selection for the
                            next NA regional conference.
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>On a personal note I was initially
                              concerned about how the relationship with
                              Location Tech and OSGeo would evolve.  Our
                              teaming has resulted in yet another
                              successful conference that I believe plays
                              to the strengths of both organizations.  I
                              was very pleased with the openness and
                              collaboration that I witnessed.</div>
                            <div>— Mark<br>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>The synopsis from Andrea Ross is
                                included below:  
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div><span>
                                    <div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:14.666666666666666px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">FOSS4G

                                  NA 2016 Synopsis (please feel free to
                                  re-use this data)</span></div>
                                    <br>
                                    <ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt">
                                      <li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:13.333333333333332px;color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">
                                        <div style="line-height:1.755;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.333333333333332px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The

                                      conference ran from May 2-5, at
                                      the Raleigh Convention Center, in
                                      Raleigh North Carolina. The code
                                      sprint & unconference ran May
                                      6 & 7 at Red Hat’s
                                      headquarters, a few blocks from
                                      the convention center. A Tour of
                                      the NCSU OSGeo Research and
                                      Education lab took place on May
                                      6th.</span></div>
                                      </li>
                                      <li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:13.333333333333332px;color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">
                                        <div style="line-height:1.755;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.333333333333332px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The

                                      conference featured 1 day of
                                      workshops, 3 days of sessions, a
                                      code sprint, an unconference, and
                                      social events every night. There
                                      were 93 full length (35 minute)
                                      sessions, 36 short length (15
                                      minute) sessions, 10 workshops,
                                      and 3 keynotes. This represented
                                      an increase in full length. The
                                      rooms were generally always near
                                      full or slightly overflowing for
                                      particularly popular talks,
                                      despite them being big rooms.</span></div>
                                      </li>
                                      <li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:13.333333333333332px;color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">
                                        <div style="line-height:1.755;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.333333333333332px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The

                                      conference grew by 33% . There
                                      were 558 attendees. This level of
                                      increase is very positive, when so
                                      many other conferences are in
                                      decline.</span></div>
                                      </li>
                                      <li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:13.333333333333332px;color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">
                                        <div style="line-height:1.755;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.333333333333332px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Like

                                      2015’s team, 50% of the 2016
                                      committee were women. Also like
                                      2015, a significant proportion of
                                      speakers and attendees were women
                                      (in the 30% range), which is great
                                      to see.</span></div>
                                      </li>
                                      <li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:13.333333333333332px;color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">
                                        <div style="line-height:1.755;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.333333333333332px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">23

                                      people were at the conference who
                                      wouldn't have otherwise been
                                      without the financial support we
                                      gave them.</span></div>
                                      </li>
                                      <li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:13.333333333333332px;color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">
                                        <div style="line-height:1.755;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.333333333333332px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">From

                                      the attendee survey, people were
                                      clearly thrilled about the
                                      conference... 99% positive
                                      feedback. (n=102). The one
                                      negative response said they were
                                      disappointed there was no lunch
                                      served. We’re not sure how they
                                      missed it! The venue, the strong
                                      program, and the positive &
                                      supportive atmosphere were the
                                      things people commented
                                      (positively) on most.</span></div>
                                      </li>
                                      <li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:13.333333333333332px;color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">
                                        <div style="line-height:1.755;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.333333333333332px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">People

                                      loved the keynotes, and especially
                                      Tamar Cohen's entitled Extreme
                                      Mapping.</span></div>
                                      </li>
                                      <li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:13.333333333333332px;color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">
                                        <div style="line-height:1.755;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.333333333333332px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The

                                      video recordings of sessions are
                                      being uploaded to Youtube, with
                                      dozens up, and more each day.</span></div>
                                      </li>
                                      <li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:13.333333333333332px;color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">
                                        <div style="line-height:1.755;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.333333333333332px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">90%

                                      of sponsors rated the value
                                      excellent. 10% rated it very good.
                                      The layout of the conference was
                                      especially appreciated as it meant
                                      plenty of traffic for sponsors at
                                      all times.</span></div>
                                      </li>
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