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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Marc, Andrea,<br>
      My point I'm hoping to make is that I think we might be spending
      more time discussing ethical code-of-conduct type questions than I
      think we need to. Yes it is important. Yes we need to flag bad
      behaviour and resolve it. But hopefully we can limit such
      discussions to 1% (or so) of our bandwidth - which we achieve by
      referencing our code-of-conduct.<br>
      <br>
      Disclaimer - I'm a privileged white male, living in a democratic
      country, and I'm used to expecting good behaviour to be the norm.<br>
      <br>
      Warm regards, Cameron<br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/05/2016 9:48 AM, Andrea Ross
        wrote:<br>
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      <blockquote cite="mid:574CD140.2010002@eclipse.org" type="cite">That's
        an unexpected response. Was someone suggesting OSGeo should be a
        forum for human rights?</blockquote>
      <br>
      On 31/05/2016 9:28 AM, Marc Vloemans wrote:<br>
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      <div>Cameron,</div>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">I think you misunderstood the aim of
        my comment.</div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature">I am not talking about human rights
        as such. (Unless they are threatened, of course)</div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">I am addressing the need to guard and
        promote our inclusivity. If we want to grow and develop as a
        community we need to take any past/present/future concern about
        it seriously. </div>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">That is an integral part of our
        marketing and communications effort: avoid wrong perceptions and
        manage our public image where/when possible. Whether such
        perceptions address the nature of our code, our projects, our
        members, our organisation and its policies or our activities.</div>
      <div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>
        Hope this clarifies, cheers,
        <div>Marc Vloemans</div>
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        Op 30 mei 2016 om 23:28 heeft Cameron Shorter <<a
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        het volgende geschreven:<br>
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          <p>All,</p>
          <p>While I'm hugely in favour of mutual respect, and I
            personally co-authored the OSGeo Code-Of-Conduct, I feel
            that OSGeo shouldn't aim to be a forum for human rights.
            (There are other places for this).<br>
          </p>
          <p>Our primary focus should be on supporting the creation of
            great OSGeo code, and supporting the communities doing this.</p>
          <p>Having a Code-Of-Conduct in place is a small part of
            supporting a community, and we should refer to it in cases
            where conversations or interactions deviate from good
            behavior, but I'm hopeful that we can leave it at that, and
            focus our time on our core code writing passions.</p>
          <p>Warm regards, Cameron<br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/05/2016 7:30 pm, Marc
            Vloemans wrote:<br>
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            <div>Thanks Andrea,</div>
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            <div id="AppleMailSignature">You are quite right,
              unfortunately. Sharing and discussing experiences and
              insights on this could come across as negative.</div>
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            <div id="AppleMailSignature">The same happened when I read
              an earlier discussion on a Code of Conduct for
              conferences. Frankly I was abhorred that such code was
              deemed necessary. Until I realised that I was perhaps
              ignorant (living in Amsterdam is such a privilege).</div>
            <div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>
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            <div id="AppleMailSignature">Can I invite you to share your
              list-of-thoughts regarding potential pitfalls for a
              Conference at least with me (marcvloemans1[at]<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a>)?
              It would be such a shame if we unintentionally overlook
              the obvious!</div>
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            <div id="AppleMailSignature">Cheers,</div>
            <div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>
              <div>Marc Vloemans</div>
              <div><br>
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              Op 30 mei 2016 om 03:49 heeft Andrea Ross <<a
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              het volgende geschreven:<br>
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Marc,<br>
                  <br>
                  I started to write a whole bunch of thoughts related
                  to this but instead decided against as I felt it was
                  stating the obvious and I didn't want the thoughts to
                  be perceived as negative.<br>
                  <br>
                  The essence was that these things  you have listed are
                  great, and they help keep things from being screwed
                  up, but they're not the hard work that it takes to
                  really make a difference. So good, but so much more is
                  needed.<br>
                  <br>
                  Kind regards,<br>
                  <br>
                  Andrea<br>
                  <br>
                  On 28/05/16 11:26, Marc Vloemans wrote:<br>
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                  <div>Dear all,</div>
                  <div><br>
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                  <div>To build upon the positive results as mentioned
                    in the thread below, I invite anyone to supply any
                    suggestion that may support the LOC FOSS4G 2016 in
                    Bonn Germany, regarding diversity related policies
                    during the actual Conference. Either directly to me
                    or via this list.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>As LOC we strive to be aware that public policies
                    and personal experiences vary per continent, region,
                    country and/or province. However, living in
                    Western-Europe we sometimes are unaware how
                    fortunate we are! That could hinder us in
                    anticipating potential fears, uncertainties and
                    doubts that visitors to Bonn may have.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>For starters, please note the following from <a
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                      href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Germany"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Germany">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Germany</a></a> :</div>
                  <div><br>
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                  <div>"<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
                      255, 0);">Germany has become the first country in
                      Europe to enact a law that allows German citizens
                      to choose to neither identify as male or female on
                      their birth certificate, which has been said to
                      specifically benefit <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphrodites"
                        title="Hermaphrodites" class="mw-redirect"
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                        line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;
                        background-image: none; text-decoration: none;">hermaphrodites</a> and <a
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                        title="Intersex" style="margin: 0px; padding:
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                        none; text-decoration: none;">intersex</a> persons."</span></div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Unfortunately same sex marriage is still 'under
                    construction', but that does not reflect negatively
                    on a number of laws protecting the rights of the
                    LGBTI community (including registered partnership).</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Best regards and hopefully we meet in Bonn,</div>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <div>Marc Vloemans</div>
                      <div><br>
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                  <div><br>
                    <div><br>
                      <br>
                      Vriendelijke groet,
                      <div>Marc Vloemans</div>
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                    Op 28 mei 2016 om 03:04 heeft Andrea Ross <<a
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                    het volgende geschreven:<br>
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                      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Kristin,
                        Everyone<br>
                        <br>
                        The sex/gender split was similar for FOSS4G NA
                        2016 as FOSS4G NA 2015. In the range of 25 to 30
                        percent women for both speakers and attendees.
                        We don't ask people their gender as part of
                        submitting or registering, so this is obviously
                        a best effort from having met a number of folks,
                        and discretely Google-stalking them just a
                        little.<br>
                        <br>
                        We probably had a record high number of trans
                        people participate, despite North Carolina's
                        HB2. Also because of HB2, many LGBT people
                        reached out to me before the conference to
                        understand what was being done, and to help
                        decide whether to boycott or not. We are so
                        grateful that so many did not boycott, and came
                        anyway. It was a moving experience for me to
                        learn how big the LGBT part of the community is
                        and get a bit of the sense of how important the
                        work they're doing is.<br>
                        <br>
                        Also, I want to call out the exemplary work of
                        the Raleigh Convention Center. They really went
                        above and beyond to ensure our attendees were
                        safe and comfortable. So far as I know, there
                        were zero instances of harassment of LGBT
                        people. Laurie Okun from the Convention Center
                        in particular was a superstar and so impressive
                        & professional from our first contact when
                        trying to assess Raleigh, through the chaos that
                        HB2 inflicted, and to the post-conference
                        follow-up. We are grateful.<br>
                        <br>
                        So many good things to note. I also want to note
                        that it is still a mostly white conference. So
                        the job is not done, and there's still much more
                        important work to be done.<br>
                        <br>
                        Kind regards,<br>
                        <br>
                        Andrea<br>
                        <br>
                        On 27/05/16 17:28, Kristin Bott wrote:<br>
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                          <div class="gmail_extra">Thanks for sharing
                            the synopsis; I'm especially encouraged by
                            (1) gender (identity) parity in the planning
                            committee (2) strong presence of
                            female-identifying folk at the conference
                            and (3) continued financial support for
                            attendees.</div>
                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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                          <div class="gmail_extra">I'd be curious what
                            the gender split was across attendees v.
                            speakers -- possibly something worth
                            tracking across years of conferences to get
                            a sense of any shifts in attendee
                            demographics.</div>
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                          <div class="gmail_extra">cheers -</div>
                          <div class="gmail_extra">-k.bott</div>
                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 27,
                              2016 at 7:09 AM, Mark Lucas <span
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                              wrote:<br>
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                                <div style="word-wrap:break-word">I had
                                  the pleasure of serving as the OSGeo
                                  representative for the 2016 FOSS4G NA
                                  conference selection and planning.  I
                                  thought the team did an excellent job
                                  in selecting, planning and running the
                                  conference.  The team made the
                                  decision to not pursue a 2017 NA
                                  conference so as not to compete for
                                  resources with the OSGeo international
                                  conference.  Our efforts will focus on
                                  2018 planning and selection for the
                                  next NA regional conference.
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>On a personal note I was
                                    initially concerned about how the
                                    relationship with Location Tech and
                                    OSGeo would evolve.  Our teaming has
                                    resulted in yet another successful
                                    conference that I believe plays to
                                    the strengths of both
                                    organizations.  I was very pleased
                                    with the openness and collaboration
                                    that I witnessed.</div>
                                  <div>— Mark<br>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>The synopsis from Andrea Ross
                                      is included below:  
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><span>
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                                  NA 2016 Synopsis (please feel free to
                                  re-use this data)</span></div>
                                          <br>
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                                                style="line-height:1.755;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.333333333333332px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The

                                      conference ran from May 2-5, at
                                      the Raleigh Convention Center, in
                                      Raleigh North Carolina. The code
                                      sprint & unconference ran May
                                      6 & 7 at Red Hat’s
                                      headquarters, a few blocks from
                                      the convention center. A Tour of
                                      the NCSU OSGeo Research and
                                      Education lab took place on May
                                      6th.</span></div>
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                                                style="line-height:1.755;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.333333333333332px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The

                                      conference featured 1 day of
                                      workshops, 3 days of sessions, a
                                      code sprint, an unconference, and
                                      social events every night. There
                                      were 93 full length (35 minute)
                                      sessions, 36 short length (15
                                      minute) sessions, 10 workshops,
                                      and 3 keynotes. This represented
                                      an increase in full length. The
                                      rooms were generally always near
                                      full or slightly overflowing for
                                      particularly popular talks,
                                      despite them being big rooms.</span></div>
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                                      conference grew by 33% . There
                                      were 558 attendees. This level of
                                      increase is very positive, when so
                                      many other conferences are in
                                      decline.</span></div>
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                                      2015’s team, 50% of the 2016
                                      committee were women. Also like
                                      2015, a significant proportion of
                                      speakers and attendees were women
                                      (in the 30% range), which is great
                                      to see.</span></div>
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                                      people were at the conference who
                                      wouldn't have otherwise been
                                      without the financial support we
                                      gave them.</span></div>
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style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:13.333333333333332px;color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">
                                              <div
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                                      the attendee survey, people were
                                      clearly thrilled about the
                                      conference... 99% positive
                                      feedback. (n=102). The one
                                      negative response said they were
                                      disappointed there was no lunch
                                      served. We’re not sure how they
                                      missed it! The venue, the strong
                                      program, and the positive &
                                      supportive atmosphere were the
                                      things people commented
                                      (positively) on most.</span></div>
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style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:13.333333333333332px;color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">
                                              <div
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                                      loved the keynotes, and especially
                                      Tamar Cohen's entitled Extreme
                                      Mapping.</span></div>
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style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:13.333333333333332px;color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">
                                              <div
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                                      video recordings of sessions are
                                      being uploaded to Youtube, with
                                      dozens up, and more each day.</span></div>
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                                            <li dir="ltr"
style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:13.333333333333332px;color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:baseline">
                                              <div
                                                style="line-height:1.755;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:13.333333333333332px;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">90%

                                      of sponsors rated the value
                                      excellent. 10% rated it very good.
                                      The layout of the conference was
                                      especially appreciated as it meant
                                      plenty of traffic for sponsors at
                                      all times.</span></div>
                                            </li>
                                          </ul>
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                                  year’s conference was produced by
                                  Andrea Ross and the team at the
                                  Eclipse Foundation, the same as 2015.
                                  Sarah Cordivano served as Community
                                  Chair. Rob Emanuele was Program
                                  Committee Chair, repeating the same
                                  role he performed in 2015.</span></div>
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