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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=DE link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Barend,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>your point of view doesn’t cover all important aspects, for example the motivation to creativity. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The symbolical fee for education means no more than the following: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>- it is a proven method to honor the inventor when the idea generates financial benefits.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>- the agreement allows a controlled develop. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The actual message to the students is:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Learn, learn, learn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Don’t be creative. Nobody will honor this and you’ll be isolated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ignore everything which seems not to be free or open, even if the idea comes from an inventor and not from a company and even if the idea could be helpful for you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As already described, the target is a worldwide identical orientation standard for all orientation tools: signage, compasses with 12 directions, mapping, location codes, navigation devices, verbal expressions for emergency cases etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The Costa Concordia catastrophe happened because of a right/left confusion during 8 seconds: the captain gave instructions to the Indonesian steerman in Italian language (destra/sinistra). Imaginary clocks are used for more than 100 years also to avoid right/left and east/west confusions. They are free and open but nobody has been motivated to form a Convention. On 9/11, helpers didn’t know which one was the tower 1 or 2. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>PET bottles and sunshine can transform dirty water to potable water “free and open”, but there is no motivation to promote this. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If my system would be “open”, this would automatically be an invitation to develop “better” standards: other dimensions (Chinese feet etc.), accuracy <a href="http://www.volksnav.de/nanometers">www.volksnav.de/nanometers</a>, shapes (squares instead of circles), identification letters (c12 instead of m12 in Chicago), colors etc., destroying the original target.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’d be more than glad if the Twente University would have the courage to surprise the experts being world’s first one to analyze the benefits of imaginary clocks outside of schools <a href="http://www.volksnav.de/UniTwente">www.volksnav.de/UniTwente</a> . <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Henrique<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> b.j.kobben@utwente.nl [mailto:b.j.kobben@utwente.nl] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 16. August 2016 10:47<br><b>An:</b> volksnav@volksnav.de; Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk; discuss@lists.osgeo.org; Standards@lists.osgeo.org<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Quote: "</span><span lang=NL> </span><span lang=NL style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>The license fee for educational purposes is symbolically EUR 1,- "<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>This implies there is also a (higher?) non-educational fee, and also means IMHO that this system can NOT be considered OPEN in the usual definition and is therefore not something OSGEO shoudl be involved with...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Yours,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Barend Köbben<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>ITC Building (room 1-065)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>@barendkobben<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>+31-(0)53 4874 253</span><span lang=NL style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Discuss <<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>> on behalf of Munich Orientation Convention <<a href="mailto:volksnav@volksnav.de">volksnav@volksnav.de</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday 16 August 2016 at 09:02<br><b>To: </b>'Suchith Anand' <<a href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a>>, "<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:Standards@lists.osgeo.org">Standards@lists.osgeo.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:Standards@lists.osgeo.org">Standards@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The license fee for educational purposes is symbolically EUR 1,-<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>