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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Hello Brian,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>thank you for the confirmation that MOC isn’t (and shouldn’t be) free and open. Therefore: OSGeo decisions actually are taken in absence of representatives of the inventor and the consumer, consequently can change when the wind changes. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>My last approach concerned ideas to the Geo Awareness Week, that means, for young consumers. A similar situation: adults decide about writing, publishing and buying books for children.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>In Bonn there will a speech about free, open and libre. This shows that in some cases openmania could be the wrong way. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>The site “free the post code” <a href="http://www.freeThePostCode.org">www.freeThePostCode.org</a> proves that even enigmatic post codes aren’t free, therefore universities etc. promote it (by unreflected use?). According to my surveys, nobody knows where is the N/S/E/W transition point ( the pole ! ) in London. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I also wrote to the National Geographic and I’m sure that Geo Awareness and open mind will overcome. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>One possibility could be to amputate the invention to a free and open torso for those who insist on saving EUR 1,- . Would this be of interest for OSGeo?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Henrique<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Brian M Hamlin<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 16. August 2016 21:29<br><b>An:</b> discuss@lists.osgeo.org; Standards@lists.osgeo.org<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Dear Colleagues -<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p> I strongly object to this statement.. <o:p></o:p></p><p>" ... <span style='background:white'>t this system can NOT be considered OPEN in the usual definition and is therefore not something OSGEO shoudl be involved with... "</span><o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p> There are numerous references to cite here.. details on request<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>best regards from Berkeley, California<o:p></o:p></p><p> --Brian M Hamlin PSC OSGeo-Live, California Chapter<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>##===============================<o:p></o:p></p><p><br>Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:46:38 +0000<br>From: <<a href="mailto:b.j.kobben@utwente.nl">b.j.kobben@utwente.nl</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:volksnav@volksnav.de">volksnav@volksnav.de</a>>, <<a href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a>>,<br><<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>>, <<a href="mailto:Standards@lists.osgeo.org">Standards@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and<br>educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at<br>Geography Awareness Week<br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:F9C56C51-86AA-4DE0-AA51-45C103098BDD@utwente.nl">F9C56C51-86AA-4DE0-AA51-45C103098BDD@utwente.nl</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Quote: " The license fee for educational purposes is symbolically EUR 1,- "<br><br>This implies there is also a (higher?) non-educational fee, and also means IMHO that this system can NOT be considered OPEN in the usual definition and is therefore not something OSGEO shoudl be involved with...<br><br>Yours,<br><br>--<br>Barend Köbben<br>Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente<br>PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands)<br>ITC Building (room 1-065)<br>@barendkobben<br>+31-(0)53 4874 253<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>