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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Hi Jachym,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">That’s good to know, thanks. We’ve done all our development on GitHub so far and communicated via issues and wikis there. It could be a good idea to move discussions somewhere
like OSGeo in future, but for now I’d like to encourage anyone who is interested to join us on GitHub:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><a href="https://github.com/covjson/specification">https://github.com/covjson/specification</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">The “public-facing” website of the project (including links to tools etc) is
<a href="https://covjson.org">https://covjson.org</a>. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">So I guess you could consider this email the “call for action” to the OSGeo community! ;-) (We have announced this publicly in other forums, but it’s good to have this opportunity
to directly talk to OSGeo – thanks Bruce for drawing me in!)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Best wishes,<br>
Jon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepicky@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 30 August 2016 10:38<br>
<b>To: </b>Bruce Bannerman <bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com>, Jon Blower <sgs02jdb@reading.ac.uk><br>
<b>Cc: </b>OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>, Massimiliano Cannata <massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] CoverageJSON<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">afaik, we as OSGeo, do not have formal procedure regarding standards, we offer some infrastructure (wiki, mailing list, maybe gitlab) and you can just "call for action" - you can then collaborate like any other project. It is very simple
and gives you big freedom. That does not exclude you from adopt the standard by more formal organisations (W3C or (I would prefer it more) OGC) which makes sense<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">@sevenspatial would say: go public, announce early, wait a little for possible feedback, and either go on or merge with existing project which might be already there, we just do not know about. for this, OSGeo is great sandbox<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">út 30. 8. 2016 v 11:31 odesílatel Bruce Bannerman <<a href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>> napsal:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is good to see Jon.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">@All how can we make this happen within OSGeo?<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 30 Aug 2016, at 19:09, Jon Blower <<a href="mailto:j.d.blower@reading.ac.uk" target="_blank">j.d.blower@reading.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">(Second attempt at sending this, I wasn’t subscribed before!)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I’m the leader of the project under which CoverageJSON is being developed [1]. My colleague Maik Riechert is the main developer of this. Thanks very much to Bruce for advertising to this list! I’ll pick up
on a few of the points in this thread:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">1.</span><span style="font-size:6.0pt">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Regarding adoption, it’s early days yet, but I’m aware of a few applications in development (including our own projects of course, but also some external folk). We’re building in library support for
a few languages (e.g. Javascript, Python) and some tools (e.g. Leaflet and NASA’s Web World Wind).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I think CovJSON can work nicely with O&M (the coverage can be the result of the observation). O&M could provide the “hooks” on which other metadata (e.g. provenance) could be hung.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Regarding compression: yes, this is going to be important. JSON gzips very well on the wire, which helps a lot with transfer speed and our tests indicate that it’s typically not very much worse than
a compressed binary format. We’ve worked successfully with rasters of millions of pixels in size.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">We’d be very happy to help people who want to implement support for CovJSON in software (e.g. istSOS). Maybe our libraries will be of some use here.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Any feedback on the spec or tools (positive or negative) is very welcome and timely, as we are moving towards a stable 1.0 release.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Best wishes,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Jon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">[1] <a href="http://www.melodiesproject.eu/" target="_blank">
http://www.melodiesproject.eu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Dr Jon Blower,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">MELODIES project coordinator,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">University of Reading</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Massimiliano Cannata <<a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" target="_blank">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 18 August 2016 09:47<br>
<b>To: </b>Bruce Bannerman <<a href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Jachym Cepicky <<a href="mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.com" target="_blank">jachym.cepicky@gmail.com</a>>, OSGeo Discussions <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>>, Jon Blower <<a href="mailto:sgs02jdb@reading.ac.uk" target="_blank">sgs02jdb@reading.ac.uk</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] CoverageJSON</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I may be interested in exploring this format and add this capability to istSOS in the next future...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">2016-08-17 22:58 GMT+02:00 Bruce Bannerman <<a href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks Jachym.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I like the potential for tying in the Observations and Measurements Observed Property with associated community agreed definitions to the coverage. This has been a missing piece
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- <a href="https://covjson.org/" target="_blank">https://covjson.org/</a><br>
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- <a href="https://github.com/covjson/specification/blob/master/spec.md" target="_blank">
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I understand that this is still a work in progress, but is in a fairly stable state at the moment.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">- to underpin spatial and image analysis?<o:p></o:p></p>
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