Think my point is that android software is open source ... but the android open platform is google. <br><br>Open platform - business arrangement between platform provider, customers and vendors<br>Open software source - software license model<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:11 AM James Klassen <<a href="mailto:klassen.js@gmail.com">klassen.js@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Historically, labeling software "open" has meant built to open standards that anyone else could theoretically implement. For example OpenLook, OpenSTEP, The Open Software Foundation (the group behind the Motif X11 toolkit - and the lack of a free and open source implementation was a major stumbling block in porting lots of existing software to Linux prior to lessrif and then the general switch to GTK), X/Open.</p>
<p dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">It wasn't until the late 90's that "open" started being used as shorthand for "open source" largely due to the influence of esr (Eric S. Raymond) as a pragmatic response to the commonly held (and in my opinion incorrect) view at the time that free software as promoted by RMS (Richard Stallman) wasn't suitable for use by businesses.</p>
<p dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">I know this may be seen as many as semantic minutiae, but this email thread seems to be getting at the now decades old argument about the differences between "open source" and free (as in libre) software. This differentiation is well covered online, so I will not repeat it here.</p>
<p dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">So in my view of the terms:</p>
<p dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Can a proprietary system be "open"? Yes and based on historical usage even closed source systems can be labeled "open".</p>
<p dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Can a proprietary system be "open source"? Again historically yes. As an extreme example of this, I believe once upon a time Microsoft open-sourced many parts of Windows but with an extremely restrictive license and limitations that certainly did and do not meet the norms of the open source community. IIRC The early versions of Qt also were also a less extreme example of this.</p>
<p dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Can proprietary software be free/libre? No, by definition.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On Mar 23, 2017 04:21, "María Arias de Reyna" <<a href="mailto:delawen%2Bosgeo@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">delawen+osgeo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Luís Moreira de Sousa <span dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:luis.de.sousa@protonmail.ch" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">luis.de.sousa@protonmail.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">I believe we need a regulatory framework for "open source" labelling; something like the EU regulation 1169/2011 [2] for organic farming. It not only sets the criteria for farmers to label their products, as it actively prevents others from falsely claiming to that criteria.</div></blockquote></div><br class="gmail_msg"> </div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg">+1 Restarting the movement for the european chapter to be able to lobby for this...</div></div>
<br class="gmail_msg"></blockquote></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">_______________________________________________<br class="gmail_msg">
Discuss mailing list<br class="gmail_msg">
<a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class="gmail_msg">
<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br class="gmail_msg"></blockquote></div>
_______________________________________________<br class="gmail_msg">
Discuss mailing list<br class="gmail_msg">
<a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class="gmail_msg">
<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a></blockquote></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">--<div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div>