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<p>Massimiliano - I have no doubt you are sending the emails for the
right reason - BUT - to do this only 40 days out and call for a
vote from the OSGEO board is disheartening. It is for me - This
should have been a discussion for post-Boston - Not now. At least
do it off channel with Michael and Guido before calling for a
vote. For me to see this discussion start this close to the
conference made me sigh - this is my first FOSS4G international
conference and I am beyond excited and want all to be. Your
original email cast a cloud (though not intentional) over the
work that Boston has done. <br>
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<p>It is not unheard of for a organization that owns the conference
to be a sponsor (at least here in the US). The longest running
conference I attend - Georgia URISA - does this every year. Not
only do we fund it - we also pay for a booth because of paperwork.
It's is important for Advertising purposes. It is important for us
to interface to the attendees. It is important for us to share our
story. <br>
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<p>I wished the OSGEO presence at the North America conference was
as strong as what is being shown at Boston. OSGEO has a great
story to tell - take every opportunity you can to spread the good
word be it as a sponsor, owner, or person with a sign discussing
climate change. <br>
</p>
<p>I wish all of you a great FOSS4G 2017 conference. <br>
</p>
<p>Randy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/03/2017 09:58 AM, Massimiliano
Cannata wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Guido,
<div dir="auto">I don't understand why you are frustrated and
disheartened by this conversation.</div>
<div>We're not discussing on climate changes :-D</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div>To All of you,</div>
<div>(i swear it is my last mail in the tread - maybe -)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">My point of view is very simple: OSGeo is not a
sponsor of the event, is the "owner" which selected you great
team and proposal for organizing the conference. Thus is not
correct list OSGeo in the sponsor list.</div>
<div>Try to open this link: <a
href="http://2017.foss4g.org/sponsor/"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://2017.foss4g.org/sponsor/</a> and
honestly tell me if you understand OSGeo is the host, or do
you get the impression it is just one of the 20 sponsors?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Since this fact has been part of discussions in
the past, I believe it is very important to be underlined and
communicated to avoid misunderstanding, also for the future
FOSS4G conferences. </div>
<div dir="auto">I believe that details and communication are
important (otherwise, for example why spend time and money in
marketing and site re-branding?).</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">And it has nothing to do with the great work you
are doing in bringing another wonderful foss4g (big big
thanks). These are small (but not negligible) details..</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I just requested the board to take a position on
this, without entering in details of when, what and why it
happened.</div>
<div>Then I will be happy whatever is the decision and will go
on on doing my contribution and work for OSGeo ;-)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Ciao,</div>
<div>Maxi</div>
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dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ijturton@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ijturton@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I have to disagree here, to me it is clear
that OSGeo is presenting ("owns") the conference while by
listing the contributions the OSGeo provides (seed money
etc) formally on the Sponsors' page/list it makes it clear
just how much money (and time) the OSGeo is putting it
into the event.
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<div>By formally listing as a sponsor it probably makes it
easier to handle things like remembering to allocate
booth space, passes etc as it is already on the
spreadsheet when those tasks are carried out.</div>
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<div>Ian</div>
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<div class="h5">On 2 July 2017 at 09:22, Massimiliano
Cannata <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a><wbr>></span>
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<div class="h5">
<div dir="auto">Dear community and board members,
<div dir="auto">Today I found out that OSGeo is
a a SPONSOR of the FOSS4G-2017 Boston
conference.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">This is disappointing me !</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">At least for two reasons:</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">1- foss4g is the OSGeo's
conference, so OSGeo is the host not a guest
(have you ever seen AGU sponsoring it's annual
event?)</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">2- OSGeo is already providing
seed and risk exposure money so it shouldn't
need to pay for get exposure or being listed
in the sponsor page.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">So, as an OSGeo charter member,
I formally ask the board to remove OSGeo from
the sponsor list !</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Regards</div>
<div dir="auto">Maxi</div>
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