<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>+1<br>Jeroen</div><div><br>Op 4 jul. 2017 om 21:35 heeft Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <<a href="mailto:patrick.hogan@nasa.gov">patrick.hogan@nasa.gov</a>> het volgende geschreven:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Discuss
[<a href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of
</span></b>Steven Feldman<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July 4, 2017 10:45 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> OSGeo Discussions; OSGeo Board<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [OSGeo-Discuss] Subject: Re: OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">It is so depressing that barely 6 weeks before our major event, when dozens of people are working every hour available while still doing a day job, that this kind of a
conversation distracts the BLOC and the wider community. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Is "presented by” “hosted by” “organised by” such a big deal? I really fear that we may be losing a sense of perspective. If the board wants to vote on this and change
the guidance given to the BLOC then so be it, I would hope that they have higher priorities. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Otherwise let’s say a massive thanks to Guido, Michael and the Boston team and leave them to get on with organising OUR conference.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On 3 Jul 2017, at 20:00,
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From: Guido Stein <</span></font><a href="mailto:guido@guidostein.com"><font size="1" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">guido@guidostein.com</span></font></a><font size="1" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">><br>
To: Till Adams <</span></font><a href="mailto:till.adams@fossgis.de"><font size="1" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">till.adams@fossgis.de</span></font></a><font size="1" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">>,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font><a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org"><font size="1" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</span></font></a><font size="1" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><br>
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a<br>
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Good morning folks,<br>
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First, I have no problem making adjustments to the website. It's not a big<br>
deal and can be done rather quickly.<br>
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That said, I am a bit frustrated and disheartened by this conversation. The<br>
tone to me feels aggressive and discounts the reality of the work that the<br>
LOC has put into this. While Maxi just noticed this, the website and<br>
discussion about this choice has been had in the conference committee and<br>
codified in the RFP. To me, the urgency that is being put on this request<br>
is upsetting.<br>
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I believe Maxi and anyone else should voice their opinions in public, but<br>
with 42 days left until the conference and with both a conference and<br>
marketing committee present and functional, it is a little painful to hear<br>
that "the community" as Maxi puts it (which in this thread represents 5<br>
people ) think that we, the FOSS4G LOC, are not giving OSGeo its proper<br>
?exposure? or ?title?.<br>
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I have been working on this project for 2 years and we, the LOC, have been<br>
following all the guidance set out by the RFP<br>
<</span></font><a href="https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/foss4g/rfp/2017/osgeo-conference-2017-request-for-proposal.pdf"><font size="1" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/foss4g/rfp/2017/osgeo-conference-2017-request-for-proposal.pdf</span></font></a><font size="1" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">><br>
and<br>
the conference committee. The RFP has this to say about what is<br>
required/requested:<br>
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The conference name will be 'FOSS4G 2017 presented by OSGeo'.<br>
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This guidance has been a part of the website since it began and has been a<br>
part of the current design since the site took on it's current design in<br>
September. So the site has been up for about 12 months and the current<br>
design, which includes OSGeo as a Gold Sponsor has been up for 9 months.<br>
<br>
The reason that OSGeo is listed under Gold Sponsor comes from a<br>
conversation on the conference dev list. In order to insure that OSGeo has<br>
clear privileges (booth, tickets, etc...) it was decided that OSGeo should<br>
be treated as a Gold Sponsor, which includes having their logo presented as<br>
such. To me, this does not suggest that their gold sponsor status is the<br>
only role they play.<br>
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We, the LOC, have been incredibly honored to work on this project and hope<br>
that we represent the OSGeo community to the best of our ability. To be<br>
clear, no matter how the website is interpreted, OSGeo is at the center of<br>
all the work that the LOC has been doing. We, the LOC, have always made it<br>
clear that the FOSS4G is here to promote and support the OSGeo community of<br>
projects and local chapters. We, the LOC, have helped to bring new sponsors<br>
to the table and building new relationships to the OSGeo foundation. We<br>
have also helped to create opportunities to promote OSGeo at other events<br>
such as OSCON and the AAG.<br>
<br>
I appreciate Maxi's concern on the positioning of OSGeo's brand and would<br>
like to work with him, the marketing committee, and the conference<br>
committee on making sure that the OSGeo brand is well placed. I would hope<br>
that Maxi and the rest of the community would realize that with 42 days<br>
until the conference the LOC is hard at work with daily and sometimes<br>
hourly tasks focused on the event planning and logistics. I hope that<br>
between the marketing and conference committees that Maxi's concerns can be<br>
addressed and that the board does not have to weigh in on how the<br>
conference is run directly.<br>
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Thank you all for your consideration and I look forward to seeing you in<br>
Boston,<br>
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Guido Stein<br>
Co-Chair<br>
FOSS4G Boston 2017 presented by OSGeo<br style="font-variant-caps: normal;text-align:start;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px">
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