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<p>Hi Suchith, <br>
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<p>I feel a little uncomfortable about signing a pledge for Open
Science/Education, even though I believe in the principles behind
it.</p>
<p>For me, I feel OSGeo/Geo4All outreach can be better focused on
practical things.</p>
<p>A pledge is cheap. It is talk. I hold much greater value on
seeing action. Seeing people who write code, mentor communities,
build and maintain documentation, turn over builds, and so on. And
I think you will find people who are creating value by helping in
practical ways will gain much greater personal satisfaction than
signing a pledge. So I'd focus on working out ways to help people
help others.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Warm regards, Cameron<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/7/17 9:28 pm, Suchith Anand
wrote:<br>
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Dear colleagues,<br>
<br>
Thanks for all ideas and inputs for our pledge for Open Science
and Education principles [1]. As promised, we will be launching
this at FOSS4G-Europe 2017 . We look forward to work with all on
this.<br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
<br>
Suchith<br>
<br>
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<b>The Pledge – I support Open Principles for Science and
Education for building a better world for everyone</b><br>
<br>
<br>
I believe Science is a public good and quality education
opportunities should be open and accessible for everyone.<br>
<br>
I will work to eliminate the digital divide and contribute to
building up Open Knowledge for the benefit of all humanity, with
special effort to enlighten future generations.<br>
<br>
I contribute my service for the betterment of all humanity using
the guiding principles of the UN 2030 Agenda for Sustainable
Development in building a better world for everyone.<br>
<br>
I will work to advance and increase Open Knowledge for the
benefit of all humanity with special consideration of those less
fortunate.<br>
<br>
I will be a voice for Open Principles in Science and Education
and promote this pledge through my networks.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
2017-07-15 11:49 GMT+02:00 Suchith Anand
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk"><Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk></a>:<br>
> Hi Andrea,<br>
><br>
> Thank you for your inputs. I meant Openness in the
broadest sense not just<br>
> software or data. I put “Geo” to have the emphasis on
people and our planet<br>
> . I am interested in the philosophy of openness in
education and science.<br>
><br>
> We are living at a time when our planet is struggling with
major obstacles<br>
> such as climate change, deforestation, land degradation and
loss of<br>
> agricultural land. While there is lot of technological
advancements<br>
> happening, we still have not solved very basic fundamental
problems . Even<br>
> today hundreds of millions of families are struggling from
hunger and<br>
> malnutrition. It is not that we do not have the resources
to solve this<br>
> but we still are not able to bring full focus and
determination for solve<br>
> this . Wealth inequalities are rising at a large pace.
Wealth is<br>
> concentrated on few billionares while Billions of families
are struggling<br>
> for basic human needs everyday and do not have access to
basic facilities<br>
> (access to clean water, sanitation , electricity , quality
education<br>
> opportunities etc) .<br>
><br>
> In some developing countries , it is a sad fact that
corruption is a big<br>
> problem and the biggest sufferers are the poorest people.
Corruption cannot<br>
> be fully solved by technology , or new laws or regulations
(as the corrupt<br>
> and greedy will always find loopholes) but it needs
spiritual awakening at<br>
> all levels and everyone should take a moral pledge to not
to do any<br>
> unethical business practices either directly or indirectly.
This is key to<br>
> end poverty, protect the planet and ensure all people enjoy
peace and<br>
> prosperity.<br>
><br>
> Openness means being open to different perspectives ,ideas,
viewpoints,<br>
> cultures and learning and improving to be a better human
every day. We need<br>
> to be open to make the right choices now to protect our
planet and improve<br>
> life in a sustainable way for our future generations.<br>
><br>
> Best wishes,<br>
><br>
> Suchith<br>
><br>
><br>
> ________________________________________<br>
> From: Andrea Giacomelli <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pibinko@gmail.com"><pibinko@gmail.com></a><br>
> Sent: 15 July 2017 8:41 AM<br>
> To: Anand Suchith; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:geoforall@lists.osgeo.org">geoforall@lists.osgeo.org</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The future of Geo is Open<br>
><br>
> Hi Suchit -<br>
><br>
> It is very unlikely that I will make it to FOSS4G-Europe,
as we will be<br>
> quite busy during the Summer with projects here in Southern
Tuscany...but in<br>
> relation to the the issue you would like to discuss I would
like to ask if,<br>
> in addition to openness of Software and data you have been
considering the<br>
> openness of the people who are in any case part of the
system.<br>
><br>
> With our team we have been monitoring these aspects, and we
have oftern<br>
> recorded the fact that the bottleneck towards progress in
the open direction<br>
> comes from people (individuals, even before organizations).<br>
><br>
> I was hinting to this towards the end of our Apr 7
Geoforall/APSRS<br>
>
webinar<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.pibinko.org/the-recording-of-the-webinar-of-open-source-geomatics-environment-and-music-from-southern-tuscany/ "><http://www.pibinko.org/the-recording-of-the-webinar-of-open-source-geomatics-environment-and-music-from-southern-tuscany/ ></a><br>
> .<br>
><br>
> I will be glad to further elaborate on the topic if you
think this is of<br>
> interest, and I would also be interested to learn if other
teams have been<br>
> considering this aspect.<br>
><br>
> Best regards<br>
><br>
><br>
> Andrea Giacomelli<br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.pibinko.org">http://www.pibinko.org</a><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.pibinko.org/"><http://www.pibinko.org/></a><br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info@pibinko.org">info@pibinko.org</a><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:info@pibinko.org"><mailto:info@pibinko.org></a><br>
> +39 331 7539228<br>
> P. IVA: 01582480537<br>
><br>
> 2017-07-06 10:24 GMT+02:00 Suchith Anand<br>
>
<<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk"><mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk></a>>:<br>
> Dear colleagues,<br>
><br>
> This is a request for help as I need inputs from the wider
community to get<br>
> more ideas for my presentation at FOSS4G-Europe 2017 later
this month.<br>
><br>
> My keynote presentation will be on “The future of Geo is
Open” and I would<br>
> like to invite ideas/inputs for this. It is also an good
time to reflect on<br>
> the developments in Open Geospatial Science [1],[2],[3] as
it is over a<br>
> decade now since we started working on the philosophy of
Openness in<br>
> Geospatial Science and Education.<br>
><br>
> I am looking forward to discussing new ideas with you all
at FOSS4G-Europe<br>
> 2017.<br>
><br>
> Best wishes,<br>
><br>
> Suchith<br>
><br>
><br>
> [1] <a
href="http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ijgi/special_issues/science-applications"
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http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ijgi/special_issues/science-applications</a> <br>
<br>
> [2]<br>
> <a
href="http://www.springer.com/earth+sciences+and+geography/geography/journal/40965"
class="OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk918836" previewremoved="true"
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http://www.springer.com/earth+sciences+and+geography/geography/journal/40965</a> <br>
<br>
> [3]<br>
> <a
href="http://www.geoconnexion.com/uploads/publication_pdfs/uk_v15i18-058-059-Op951AF3.pdf"
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http://www.geoconnexion.com/uploads/publication_pdfs/uk_v15i18-058-059-Op951AF3.pdf</a> <br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
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