<div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto">On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 01:27 Polimi <<a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Thank you all for your proposals and discussion. I' m currently in holidays and therefore I want just to propose some short comments.</div><div id="m_5561111919138978447AppleMailSignature">1) in my opinion the size matters and it is not in se something negative to be a small startup or company instead of a big one. Anyway, as JeffJ said, if somebody is alienated we can skip it. We have just to better discuss this 'if'.</div><div id="m_5561111919138978447AppleMailSignature">2) sometimes university labs are ALSO providing services. Shall we consider this option and leave the possibility to the labs that are doing so to be listed also here?</div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This is something we had not quite thought of. Seems a Geo for all lab should be able to choose to be cross listed as a service provider and also be listed in a project page. But quite sure how to accomplish this, but it's something we should implement. I'll file an issue. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div id="m_5561111919138978447AppleMailSignature"></div><div id="m_5561111919138978447AppleMailSignature">3) using 'organisations' is a good idea, or at least I don't have a better one. Let us see if somebody suggests something different.</div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Here we also start to head toward treating all organizations the same in the CMS and just indicating what type(s) they are to show in the appropriate place. This would take some rethinking of the site, but may make most sense long term. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div id="m_5561111919138978447AppleMailSignature"></div><div id="m_5561111919138978447AppleMailSignature">Thanks again, above all JeffJ!</div><div id="m_5561111919138978447AppleMailSignature">Best regards!</div><div id="m_5561111919138978447AppleMailSignature">Maria</div><div id="m_5561111919138978447AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_5561111919138978447AppleMailSignature"><br><div><div name="divtagdefaultwrapper"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Pay attention to this Special Issue and see if it is of interest by you:</span></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><a href="http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ijgi/special_issues/Geospatial_Big_Data_Urban_Studies" id="m_5561111919138978447NoLP" style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ijgi/special_issues/Geospatial_Big_Data_Urban_Studies</font></a></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">----------------------------------------------------</b></p></div><div name="divtagdefaultwrapper"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli</b></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Professor of GIS and Remote Sensing<br>Politecnico di Milano</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">ISPRS WG IV/4"Collaborative crowdsourced cloud mapping (C3M)" <a href="http://www2.isprs.org/commissions/comm4/wg4.html" id="m_5561111919138978447NoLP" target="_blank">http://www2.isprs.org/commissions/comm4/wg4.html</a>, Board of Directors of OSGeo; GeoForAll Advisory Board; NASA WorldWind Europa Challenge; SIFET Advisory Board</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">UN-GGIM Italy, UN-GGIM Academic Network Task Team, UN OpenGIS Initiative (Chair of the Capacity Building WG)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Sol Katz Award 2015</b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">P.zza Leonardo da Vinci, 32 - Building 3 - 20133 Milano (Italy)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tel. +39-02-23996242 - Mob. +39-328-0023867,  <a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it" id="m_5561111919138978447NoLP" target="_blank">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a></span></p></div></div><div><div id="m_5561111919138978447Signature"><div name="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="margin:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font><font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><br></p></font></font></span></div></div></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><div><br>Il giorno 22 ago 2017, alle ore 02:09, Jeffrey Johnson <<a href="mailto:ortelius@gmail.com" target="_blank">ortelius@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Hi All,</span><br><span></span><br><span>I think we are talking about several different issues here. Let me try</span><br><span>to summarize.</span><br><span></span><br><span>1) JeffM is suggesting that we should *not* ask Service Providers what</span><br><span>size they are in terms of number of employees to avoid 'alienating'</span><br><span>them. I'm not sure I see how any would be alienated, but I dont think</span><br><span>this piece of data is all that important anyway. I think we originally</span><br><span>conceived of it to be able to separate out individual consultants and</span><br><span>small companies from larger ones. I know in my experience when looking</span><br><span>for a service provider, often I am specifically looking for small ones</span><br><span>or individual consultants because Im not interested in dealing with</span><br><span>big organizations. In any case, this service provider section should</span><br><span>be open to any and all organizations (from one person consultancies to</span><br><span>large organizations) that want to provide services for hire on OSGeo</span><br><span>or other open source geospatial projects. Its not that important to</span><br><span>*me* that we collect what size they are, but it may be useful to</span><br><span>others to know what size they are when looking for help.</span><br><span></span><br><span>2) JeffM is proposing we ask for the organization *type* here instead</span><br><span>of size and be inclusive of other types of organizations than just</span><br><span>companies. Im all for being as inclusive as we can, but this section</span><br><span>of the site was specifically intended as a place where one could find</span><br><span>organizations or individual consultants *for hire* to work on/with the</span><br><span>projects. As Jody mentions, there are lots of NGOs and government orgs</span><br><span>who would like to be listed somewhere on our site, but are NOT looking</span><br><span>for work. The converse is also true, there are lots of NGOs and and</span><br><span>perhaps even government agencies who are willing to do work for hire</span><br><span>and would like to be listed here as a service provider.</span><br><span></span><br><span>3) as mentioned in 2) it would be nice to have a place on our site to</span><br><span>list organizations that are NOT looking for work, nor are a GeoForAll</span><br><span>Lab, nor (yet) a sponsor or a partner (with a formal MOU). Perhaps</span><br><span>they are important contributors to a project and would like to be</span><br><span>listed somewhere. CSIRO comes to mind as an example. I think we DO</span><br><span>need to think of perhaps a new content type to capture these and</span><br><span>classify them appropriately and let them link to the projects they</span><br><span>contribute to, resources they may have created etc. Perhaps just an</span><br><span>'Organizations' section that is much like the 'Service Providers' and</span><br><span>GeoForAll labs, but is listed separately under Community, I can think</span><br><span>of a lot of organizations who would be interested to be listed here.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Hoping we can all agree on what we are talking about here and find a</span><br><span>solution. I really want to find a place for *every* member of our</span><br><span>community big or small to show off their work and make sure its linked</span><br><span>to other content types (projects, resources, news etc) appropriately.</span><br><span>This is of course a bit hard because we have such a diverse group of</span><br><span>stakeholders, but Im confident we can work through it.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Jachym, just making sure you are happy with how OpenGeoLabs is currently listed?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Kurt Menke if you are on this list, I intended to move Birds Eye GIS</span><br><span>from being listed as a GeoForAll Lab to being a Service Provider and</span><br><span>realize I got interrupted in the middle of doing it on Saturday and</span><br><span>now its simply deleted. Ill reach out to you personally to make sure</span><br><span>you get re-added in the right place.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Also, I realize</span><br><span><a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/geo-for-all-labs/attivarti-org/" target="_blank">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/geo-for-all-labs/attivarti-org/</a> is</span><br><span>another example of an organization that probably belongs in a new</span><br><span>section as described in 3)</span><br><span></span><br><span>Jeff</span><br><span></span><br><span>On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Jeff have you heard from any small companies that feel alienated? For many</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>being a small company gives them a chance to offer personal service. I do</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>not want to make assumptions if we can help it.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My feedback was actually focused on the site design, partnership & friend</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>relationships are appropriate for government and NGOs, geoforall labs are</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the appropriate relationship for education and science etc. If that is clear</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>we can return to the earlier discussion - specifically about service</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>provider size. (we should also be sure to capture this discussion on the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>issue tracker so it can actually inform the review of the website).</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Many of these decisions already took place during the earlier wireframe</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>stage of the project (by contributors who stepped up to the marketing</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>committee). We already went back to the drawing table on some of the key</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>decisions during wire framing and initial website design.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To clearly set expectations - we will not have a chance to revisit each and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>every decision due to limitations on time/budget. It is hard though, because</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>it is much easier to care about a website when it is pretty and we can all</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>see it :)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My initial message to Jachym was trying to confirm that the organization</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>size worked for opengeolabs (simply because this was already a decision that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>had been revisited once).</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 4:09 PM Jeff McKenna <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Jody,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>By alienating the smaller OSGeo companies in our new website, I don't</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>see a benefit to OSGeo at all.  Let us please all sizes of OSGeo</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>companies, small and big.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yes this is tricky, for sure, even your initial message to Jachym shows</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>a lot of what it could be like, if OSGeo suddenly distinguishes size.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Let's avoid this totally, I believe.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I am open to other suggestions to the wording as well.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tricky!  :)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>-jeff</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 2017-08-21 6:53 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I already changed it from number to the size thing.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>This list was for support providers (since the website is about outreach</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>looks at projects, local chapters and service providers).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>GeoForAll labs and academic / research outreach are in slightly</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>different spot (we could cross link). See</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/geo-for-all-labs/" target="_blank">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/geo-for-all-labs/</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I do not think public:government, NGO/non-profit would like to be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>contacted for commercial support :) That said they can be listed in our</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>site as partners and friends. Sort order is given to groups with a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>defined relationship with OSGeo (such as ISPRS, LocationTech,...). See</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/partners/" target="_blank">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/partners/</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Recognizing service providers on our website in this way is a new thing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>- I hope it works out :)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>This design is full of difficult decisions thanks for contributing to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the discussion (and content).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 3:30 PM Jeff McKenna</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a> <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Hi Jachym,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Yes I agree, it is a slippery slope that once we/OSGeo decide that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>size</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    is an important part of our organization (as you know, many other</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    organizations separate their membership by size), it opens up so</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>many</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    other challenges.  For that reason, I spoke up here to suggest that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    avoid all that, by suggesting 4 options to cover that.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Indeed my proposal does include all organizations, purposely.  OSGeo</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    built on that, and has done an amazing job in creating a thriving</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    community.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Thanks for listening Jachym,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    -jeff</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    On 2017-08-21 6:17 PM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Jeff (all)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>currently, the page is listing "service providers"  - it's</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>project</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>oriented (as providing services to projects)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>your proposal is shifting it little bit to "all organisations",</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    not even</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>service providing - but what is their releationship to the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(osgeo)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>projects? - still, it would be fine to me</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I would be +1 for it, if it's does not hit to some other</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>principle,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>already hardcoded in the page (e.g.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/initiatives/geo-for-all/" target="_blank">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/initiatives/geo-for-all/</a> is partly</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>coreving the Academic/Research topic - just an example of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>potencial</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>conflict, which we could oversee)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I do not know, just noting, I have no strong opinion - I want to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>inclusive, all for adding another categories, but the rules and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>principals should be clear. Currently, how I understand it "you</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    can be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>listed as long as you are providing services to projects"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>J</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>út 22. 8. 2017 v 0:11 odesílatel Jeff McKenna</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>>>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>napsal:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    On 2017-08-21 5:11 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>For your page</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    <a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/service-providers/opengeolabs/" target="_blank">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/service-providers/opengeolabs/</a> Is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    that a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>single consultant (you!) or a company?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(or perhaps it is just a company with one person in it)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Hi Jody,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Regarding separating the OSGeo community by size, I suggest</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    that we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    avoid offending our community members, so let's stay positive</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    and make</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    the following change:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    I recommend that we/OSGeo change the "Organization Type"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    section to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    contain the following 4 options:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>       1. Private</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>       2. Academic/Research</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>       3. Public/Government</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>       4. Non-profit</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    The same 4 options should be applied to the options in the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    "Filter"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    search on the site for "Service Provider Type".</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Thanks.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Jachym: you did a great job on the OpenGeoLabs page, and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    thanks for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    supporting OSGeo all of these years :)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    -jeff</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    --</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Jeff McKenna</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    President Emeritus, OSGeo Foundation</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    _______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Discuss mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Discuss mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a></span><br></blockquote><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Discuss mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><br><span><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a></span></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div>