<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Thank you all for your proposals and discussion. I' m currently in holidays and therefore I want just to propose some short comments.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">1) in my opinion the size matters and it is not in se something negative to be a small startup or company instead of a big one. Anyway, as JeffJ said, if somebody is alienated we can skip it. We have just to better discuss this 'if'.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">2) sometimes university labs are ALSO providing services. Shall we consider this option and leave the possibility to the labs that are doing so to be listed also here?</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">3) using 'organisations' is a good idea, or at least I don't have a better one. Let us see if somebody suggests something different.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Thanks again, above all JeffJ!</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Best regards!</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Maria</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br><div><div name="divtagdefaultwrapper"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Pay attention to this Special Issue and see if it is of interest by you:</span></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><a href="http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ijgi/special_issues/Geospatial_Big_Data_Urban_Studies" id="NoLP" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font color="#000000">http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ijgi/special_issues/Geospatial_Big_Data_Urban_Studies</font></a></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><b style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">----------------------------------------------------</b></p></div><div name="divtagdefaultwrapper"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><b style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli</b></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Professor of GIS and Remote Sensing<br>Politecnico di Milano</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">ISPRS WG IV/4"Collaborative crowdsourced cloud mapping (C3M)" <a href="http://www2.isprs.org/commissions/comm4/wg4.html" id="NoLP">http://www2.isprs.org/commissions/comm4/wg4.html</a>, Board of Directors of OSGeo; GeoForAll Advisory Board; NASA WorldWind Europa Challenge; SIFET Advisory Board</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">UN-GGIM Italy, UN-GGIM Academic Network Task Team, UN OpenGIS Initiative (Chair of the Capacity Building WG)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><b style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sol Katz Award 2015</b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">P.zza Leonardo da Vinci, 32 - Building 3 - 20133 Milano (Italy)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tel. +39-02-23996242 - Mob. +39-328-0023867,  <a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it" id="NoLP">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a></span></p></div></div><div><div id="Signature"><div name="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="margin: 0px;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font><font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><br></p></font></font></span></div></div></div></div><div><br>Il giorno 22 ago 2017, alle ore 02:09, Jeffrey Johnson <<a href="mailto:ortelius@gmail.com">ortelius@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Hi All,</span><br><span></span><br><span>I think we are talking about several different issues here. Let me try</span><br><span>to summarize.</span><br><span></span><br><span>1) JeffM is suggesting that we should *not* ask Service Providers what</span><br><span>size they are in terms of number of employees to avoid 'alienating'</span><br><span>them. I'm not sure I see how any would be alienated, but I dont think</span><br><span>this piece of data is all that important anyway. I think we originally</span><br><span>conceived of it to be able to separate out individual consultants and</span><br><span>small companies from larger ones. I know in my experience when looking</span><br><span>for a service provider, often I am specifically looking for small ones</span><br><span>or individual consultants because Im not interested in dealing with</span><br><span>big organizations. In any case, this service provider section should</span><br><span>be open to any and all organizations (from one person consultancies to</span><br><span>large organizations) that want to provide services for hire on OSGeo</span><br><span>or other open source geospatial projects. Its not that important to</span><br><span>*me* that we collect what size they are, but it may be useful to</span><br><span>others to know what size they are when looking for help.</span><br><span></span><br><span>2) JeffM is proposing we ask for the organization *type* here instead</span><br><span>of size and be inclusive of other types of organizations than just</span><br><span>companies. Im all for being as inclusive as we can, but this section</span><br><span>of the site was specifically intended as a place where one could find</span><br><span>organizations or individual consultants *for hire* to work on/with the</span><br><span>projects. As Jody mentions, there are lots of NGOs and government orgs</span><br><span>who would like to be listed somewhere on our site, but are NOT looking</span><br><span>for work. The converse is also true, there are lots of NGOs and and</span><br><span>perhaps even government agencies who are willing to do work for hire</span><br><span>and would like to be listed here as a service provider.</span><br><span></span><br><span>3) as mentioned in 2) it would be nice to have a place on our site to</span><br><span>list organizations that are NOT looking for work, nor are a GeoForAll</span><br><span>Lab, nor (yet) a sponsor or a partner (with a formal MOU). Perhaps</span><br><span>they are important contributors to a project and would like to be</span><br><span>listed somewhere. CSIRO comes to mind as an example. I think we DO</span><br><span>need to think of perhaps a new content type to capture these and</span><br><span>classify them appropriately and let them link to the projects they</span><br><span>contribute to, resources they may have created etc. Perhaps just an</span><br><span>'Organizations' section that is much like the 'Service Providers' and</span><br><span>GeoForAll labs, but is listed separately under Community, I can think</span><br><span>of a lot of organizations who would be interested to be listed here.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Hoping we can all agree on what we are talking about here and find a</span><br><span>solution. I really want to find a place for *every* member of our</span><br><span>community big or small to show off their work and make sure its linked</span><br><span>to other content types (projects, resources, news etc) appropriately.</span><br><span>This is of course a bit hard because we have such a diverse group of</span><br><span>stakeholders, but Im confident we can work through it.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Jachym, just making sure you are happy with how OpenGeoLabs is currently listed?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Kurt Menke if you are on this list, I intended to move Birds Eye GIS</span><br><span>from being listed as a GeoForAll Lab to being a Service Provider and</span><br><span>realize I got interrupted in the middle of doing it on Saturday and</span><br><span>now its simply deleted. Ill reach out to you personally to make sure</span><br><span>you get re-added in the right place.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Also, I realize</span><br><span><a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/geo-for-all-labs/attivarti-org/">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/geo-for-all-labs/attivarti-org/</a> is</span><br><span>another example of an organization that probably belongs in a new</span><br><span>section as described in 3)</span><br><span></span><br><span>Jeff</span><br><span></span><br><span>On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Jeff have you heard from any small companies that feel alienated? For many</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>being a small company gives them a chance to offer personal service. I do</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>not want to make assumptions if we can help it.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My feedback was actually focused on the site design, partnership & friend</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>relationships are appropriate for government and NGOs, geoforall labs are</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the appropriate relationship for education and science etc. If that is clear</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>we can return to the earlier discussion - specifically about service</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>provider size. (we should also be sure to capture this discussion on the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>issue tracker so it can actually inform the review of the website).</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Many of these decisions already took place during the earlier wireframe</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>stage of the project (by contributors who stepped up to the marketing</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>committee). We already went back to the drawing table on some of the key</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>decisions during wire framing and initial website design.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To clearly set expectations - we will not have a chance to revisit each and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>every decision due to limitations on time/budget. It is hard though, because</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>it is much easier to care about a website when it is pretty and we can all</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>see it :)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My initial message to Jachym was trying to confirm that the organization</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>size worked for opengeolabs (simply because this was already a decision that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>had been revisited once).</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 4:09 PM Jeff McKenna <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Jody,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>By alienating the smaller OSGeo companies in our new website, I don't</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>see a benefit to OSGeo at all.  Let us please all sizes of OSGeo</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>companies, small and big.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yes this is tricky, for sure, even your initial message to Jachym shows</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>a lot of what it could be like, if OSGeo suddenly distinguishes size.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Let's avoid this totally, I believe.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I am open to other suggestions to the wording as well.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tricky!  :)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>-jeff</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 2017-08-21 6:53 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I already changed it from number to the size thing.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>This list was for support providers (since the website is about outreach</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>looks at projects, local chapters and service providers).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>GeoForAll labs and academic / research outreach are in slightly</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>different spot (we could cross link). See</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/geo-for-all-labs/">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/geo-for-all-labs/</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I do not think public:government, NGO/non-profit would like to be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>contacted for commercial support :) That said they can be listed in our</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>site as partners and friends. Sort order is given to groups with a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>defined relationship with OSGeo (such as ISPRS, LocationTech,...). See</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/partners/">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/partners/</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Recognizing service providers on our website in this way is a new thing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>- I hope it works out :)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>This design is full of difficult decisions thanks for contributing to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the discussion (and content).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 3:30 PM Jeff McKenna</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a> <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com">mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Hi Jachym,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Yes I agree, it is a slippery slope that once we/OSGeo decide that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>size</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    is an important part of our organization (as you know, many other</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    organizations separate their membership by size), it opens up so</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>many</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    other challenges.  For that reason, I spoke up here to suggest that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    avoid all that, by suggesting 4 options to cover that.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Indeed my proposal does include all organizations, purposely.  OSGeo</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    built on that, and has done an amazing job in creating a thriving</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    community.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Thanks for listening Jachym,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    -jeff</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    On 2017-08-21 6:17 PM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Jeff (all)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>currently, the page is listing "service providers"  - it's</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>project</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>oriented (as providing services to projects)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>your proposal is shifting it little bit to "all organisations",</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    not even</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>service providing - but what is their releationship to the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(osgeo)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>projects? - still, it would be fine to me</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I would be +1 for it, if it's does not hit to some other</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>principle,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>already hardcoded in the page (e.g.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/initiatives/geo-for-all/">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/initiatives/geo-for-all/</a> is partly</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>coreving the Academic/Research topic - just an example of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>potencial</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>conflict, which we could oversee)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I do not know, just noting, I have no strong opinion - I want to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>inclusive, all for adding another categories, but the rules and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>principals should be clear. Currently, how I understand it "you</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    can be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>listed as long as you are providing services to projects"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>J</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ășt 22. 8. 2017 v 0:11 odesĂ­latel Jeff McKenna</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com">mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com">mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com">mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>>>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>napsal:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    On 2017-08-21 5:11 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>For your page</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    <a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/service-providers/opengeolabs/">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/service-providers/opengeolabs/</a> Is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    that a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>single consultant (you!) or a company?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(or perhaps it is just a company with one person in it)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Hi Jody,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Regarding separating the OSGeo community by size, I suggest</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    that we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    avoid offending our community members, so let's stay positive</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    and make</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    the following change:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    I recommend that we/OSGeo change the "Organization Type"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    section to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    contain the following 4 options:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>       1. Private</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>       2. Academic/Research</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>       3. Public/Government</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>       4. Non-profit</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    The same 4 options should be applied to the options in the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    "Filter"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    search on the site for "Service Provider Type".</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Thanks.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Jachym: you did a great job on the OpenGeoLabs page, and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    thanks for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    supporting OSGeo all of these years :)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    -jeff</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    --</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    Jeff McKenna</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    President Emeritus, OSGeo Foundation</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>    _______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Discuss mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Discuss mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a></span><br></blockquote><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Discuss mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org">Discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><br><span><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/m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