<div dir="ltr">Eh, new idea just came to my mind: What about adding possibility to assign people to service providers (companies in general) as we can assign to projects? After all, it's all about people, isn't it?<div><br></div><div>Again, maybe it is in cotradiction with some principle, I'm missing</div><div> </div><div>J</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">út 22. 8. 2017 v 2:58 odesílatel Jeffrey Johnson <<a href="mailto:ortelius@gmail.com">ortelius@gmail.com</a>> napsal:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Note the news section is intended for news related to a specific<br>
service provider. Its *not* doing this now, so its unclear.<br>
<br>
Can you file an issue about the search. Agree this should work for a<br>
project name here.<br>
<br>
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Jachym Cepicky<br>
<<a href="mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.com" target="_blank">jachym.cepicky@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> hi,<br>
><br>
> yes for me (OpenGeoLabs) it works as it is now - we are listed, we have<br>
> links to projects we can support, there is logo, picture, web page, once it<br>
> works, we are gonna be on the map, what could I possibly ask for more? (if<br>
> the graphics around "News" will be made more clear)<br>
><br>
> side note: maybe adding note, that if you are searching for specifing<br>
> service provider related to project, you should go to project page and find<br>
> the service providers there, since search "geoserver" does not return any<br>
> result at this page<br>
><br>
> J<br>
><br>
><br>
> út 22. 8. 2017 v 1:24 odesílatel Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br>
> napsal:<br>
>><br>
>> Jeff have you heard from any small companies that feel alienated? For many<br>
>> being a small company gives them a chance to offer personal service. I do<br>
>> not want to make assumptions if we can help it.<br>
>><br>
>> My feedback was actually focused on the site design, partnership & friend<br>
>> relationships are appropriate for government and NGOs, geoforall labs are<br>
>> the appropriate relationship for education and science etc. If that is clear<br>
>> we can return to the earlier discussion - specifically about service<br>
>> provider size. (we should also be sure to capture this discussion on the<br>
>> issue tracker so it can actually inform the review of the website).<br>
>><br>
>> Many of these decisions already took place during the earlier wireframe<br>
>> stage of the project (by contributors who stepped up to the marketing<br>
>> committee). We already went back to the drawing table on some of the key<br>
>> decisions during wire framing and initial website design.<br>
>><br>
>> To clearly set expectations - we will not have a chance to revisit each<br>
>> and every decision due to limitations on time/budget. It is hard though,<br>
>> because it is much easier to care about a website when it is pretty and we<br>
>> can all see it :)<br>
>><br>
>> My initial message to Jachym was trying to confirm that the organization<br>
>> size worked for opengeolabs (simply because this was already a decision that<br>
>> had been revisited once).<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 4:09 PM Jeff McKenna<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi Jody,<br>
>>><br>
>>> By alienating the smaller OSGeo companies in our new website, I don't<br>
>>> see a benefit to OSGeo at all. Let us please all sizes of OSGeo<br>
>>> companies, small and big.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Yes this is tricky, for sure, even your initial message to Jachym shows<br>
>>> a lot of what it could be like, if OSGeo suddenly distinguishes size.<br>
>>> Let's avoid this totally, I believe.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I am open to other suggestions to the wording as well.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Tricky! :)<br>
>>><br>
>>> -jeff<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 2017-08-21 6:53 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
>>> > I already changed it from number to the size thing.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > This list was for support providers (since the website is about<br>
>>> > outreach<br>
>>> > looks at projects, local chapters and service providers).<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > GeoForAll labs and academic / research outreach are in slightly<br>
>>> > different spot (we could cross link). See<br>
>>> > <a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/geo-for-all-labs/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/geo-for-all-labs/</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I do not think public:government, NGO/non-profit would like to be<br>
>>> > contacted for commercial support :) That said they can be listed in our<br>
>>> > site as partners and friends. Sort order is given to groups with a<br>
>>> > defined relationship with OSGeo (such as ISPRS, LocationTech,...). See<br>
>>> > <a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/partners/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/partners/</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Recognizing service providers on our website in this way is a new thing<br>
>>> > - I hope it works out :)<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > This design is full of difficult decisions thanks for contributing to<br>
>>> > the discussion (and content).<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 3:30 PM Jeff McKenna<br>
>>> > <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>>><br>
>>> > wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Hi Jachym,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Yes I agree, it is a slippery slope that once we/OSGeo decide that<br>
>>> > size<br>
>>> > is an important part of our organization (as you know, many other<br>
>>> > organizations separate their membership by size), it opens up so<br>
>>> > many<br>
>>> > other challenges. For that reason, I spoke up here to suggest that<br>
>>> > we<br>
>>> > avoid all that, by suggesting 4 options to cover that.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Indeed my proposal does include all organizations, purposely.<br>
>>> > OSGeo is<br>
>>> > built on that, and has done an amazing job in creating a thriving<br>
>>> > community.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Thanks for listening Jachym,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > -jeff<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On 2017-08-21 6:17 PM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:<br>
>>> > > Hi Jeff (all)<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > currently, the page is listing "service providers" - it's<br>
>>> > project<br>
>>> > > oriented (as providing services to projects)<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > your proposal is shifting it little bit to "all organisations",<br>
>>> > not even<br>
>>> > > service providing - but what is their releationship to the<br>
>>> > (osgeo)<br>
>>> > > projects? - still, it would be fine to me<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > I would be +1 for it, if it's does not hit to some other<br>
>>> > principle,<br>
>>> > > already hardcoded in the page (e.g.<br>
>>> > > <a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/initiatives/geo-for-all/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/initiatives/geo-for-all/</a> is<br>
>>> > partly<br>
>>> > > coreving the Academic/Research topic - just an example of<br>
>>> > potencial<br>
>>> > > conflict, which we could oversee)<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > I do not know, just noting, I have no strong opinion - I want to<br>
>>> > be<br>
>>> > > inclusive, all for adding another categories, but the rules and<br>
>>> > > principals should be clear. Currently, how I understand it "you<br>
>>> > can be<br>
>>> > > listed as long as you are providing services to projects"<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > J<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > út 22. 8. 2017 v 0:11 odesílatel Jeff McKenna<br>
>>> > > <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a><br>
>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>><br>
>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a><br>
>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>>>><br>
>>> > > napsal:<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > On 2017-08-21 5:11 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
>>> > > > For your page<br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > <a href="http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/service-providers/opengeolabs/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/service-providers/opengeolabs/</a> Is<br>
>>> > > that a<br>
>>> > > > single consultant (you!) or a company?<br>
>>> > > > (or perhaps it is just a company with one person in it)<br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > Hi Jody,<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > Regarding separating the OSGeo community by size, I suggest<br>
>>> > that we<br>
>>> > > avoid offending our community members, so let's stay<br>
>>> > positive<br>
>>> > and make<br>
>>> > > the following change:<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > I recommend that we/OSGeo change the "Organization Type"<br>
>>> > section to<br>
>>> > > contain the following 4 options:<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > 1. Private<br>
>>> > > 2. Academic/Research<br>
>>> > > 3. Public/Government<br>
>>> > > 4. Non-profit<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > The same 4 options should be applied to the options in the<br>
>>> > "Filter"<br>
>>> > > search on the site for "Service Provider Type".<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > Thanks.<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > Jachym: you did a great job on the OpenGeoLabs page, and<br>
>>> > thanks for<br>
>>> > > supporting OSGeo all of these years :)<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > -jeff<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > --<br>
>>> > > Jeff McKenna<br>
>>> > > President Emeritus, OSGeo Foundation<br>
>>> > > <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna</a><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > ><br>
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