<div dir="ltr">Thanks Maria,<div><br></div><div>I reject the idea that we are advertising proprietary software, so each time it is phrased that way of course everyone well say "no".</div><div><br></div><div>I want to help our software reach visitors that feel locked into proprietary software, please recognize this goal and how "migrate from" can help. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div>Personally I agree with Helmut and I don't see any necessity of putting "similar proprietary software" on our web pages. I don't think proprietary software need to be advertized. We are a Foundation about Open Software and I want to see the open source
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<div>I ask please to remove the "similar proprietary software" and the related links. </div>
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A: Margherita Di Leo <<a href="mailto:diregola@gmail.com" target="_blank">diregola@gmail.com</a>>, Helmut Kudrnovsky <<a href="mailto:hellik@web.de" target="_blank">hellik@web.de</a>> <br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the discussion on the bug report. Please keep in mind that this website is written by us, but it is not intended for us - it is intended for the vast majority of the GIS industry that has honestly not heard about open source yet.
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<div>These sections are optional, if one of our open source projects has a particular target market in mind filling in this information would really help! Indeed when I go to a normal GIS conference this is the top question - since I have not had a chance to
use the proprietary software it is not one I can easily answer.</div>
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<div>In the above bug report I would like to change the heading from "<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.800000190734863px">Similar Proprietary Products" to "Migrate From", but perhaps that is too confrontational? I would also like to avoid advertising
p</span><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.800000190734863px">roprietary software, linking to the associated wikipedia entry if appropriate.</span></div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.800000190734863px">I am not interested in </span><font color="#500050"><span style="font-size:12.800000190734863px">reciprocity, I am interested in OSGeo projects taking competition to the GIS industry which
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I want to bring you a discussion on a github ticket about linking to "similar proprietary products" [1] to your attention.<br>
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where our OSGeo projects - if they want to - may link to. I see no added value for OSGeo to serve such links. As already elsewhere mentioned by me, reciprocity is the key if such items are listed, but I can't see this happen. "<br>
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<div>I agree. I don't understand it either. </div>
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I'm pretty much convinced that more effort to help our OSGeo projects improving on every level (e.g. documentation, reach out, testing, etc) is the key rather than linking to proprietary software. One of such opportunities may be the upcoming Google Code In
(GCI) 2017 e.g. to produce nice screenshots for documentation, produce some fancy videos etc. based on tiny little tasks for students aged 13 to 17. A good invest in the young who will be our OSGeo's future.<br>
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<div>Thanks for mentioning that, Helli. May I add that suitable tasks for students may include design of web pages and / or promotional material, see for example
<a href="https://codein.withgoogle.com/archive/2015/organization/4777925899452416/task/5259692246827008/" target="_blank">
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<div>I take the liberty of cc'ing the marketing committee, because it would be nice to see some members joining the code-in mentors pool. Let us know that you want to join, writing an email to <a href="mailto:gsoc-admin@osgeo.org" target="_blank">gsoc-admin@osgeo.org</a> and
I'll send you the subscription form.</div>
<div>Hoping that I didn't go much off topic respect to the original meaning of this email</div>
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