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On 09/21/2017 06:45 PM, Daniel Kastl wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">I think "Switch2osm" is a very good example how to help migrating to
non-proprietary tools: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://switch2osm.org/">https://switch2osm.org/</a>
I quickly went through their site and as far as I could see, competitor
names only appear in case studies.
Maybe we could have "switch2foss" in a similar way.
It's a very good idea to help new users to find open alternatives to the
proprietary software they're using right now.
I agree with many here, that this doesn't require to provide links to them.
Best regards,
Daniel
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Gert-Jan van der Weijden (OSGeo.nl) <
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<pre wrap="">As a regular user of proprietary GIS software (ArcGIS, FME, Oracle Spatial
etcetera) I can assure that it is very valuable to have some sort of
guidance in the diversity of the FOSS landscape.
I agree that "similar proprietary products" isn't the right label.
However, instead of the proposed "migratte from" (which sound like a
complete migration plan) I'd suggest the label "comparable proprietary
software".
Kind regards,
Gert-Jan
María Arias de Reyna schreef op 21-09-2017 8:30:
On 20 September 2017 at 02:41, Helmut Kudrnovsky <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hellik@web.de"><hellik@web.de></a> wrote:
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Dear OSGeo community
I want to bring you a discussion on a github ticket about linking to
"similar proprietary products" [1] to your attention.
My comment there:
"I support and concur with Venka that the item "Similar Proprietary
Products" should be removed. There isn't only one proprietary GIS
software
out there, there are several others. IMHO such comparisons may be part
of
e.g. a reviewed scientific paper/elaboration, where our OSGeo projects
- if
they want to - may link to. I see no added value for OSGeo to serve
such
links. As already elsewhere mentioned by me, reciprocity is the key if
such
items are listed, but I can't see this happen. "
I'm pretty much convinced that more effort to help our OSGeo projects
improving on every level (e.g. documentation, reach out, testing, etc)
is
the key rather than linking to proprietary software. One of such
opportunities may be the upcoming Google Code In (GCI) 2017 e.g. to
produce
nice screenshots for documentation, produce some fancy videos etc.
based on
tiny little tasks for students aged 13 to 17. A good invest in the
young who
will be our OSGeo's future.
Kind regards
Helmut
OSGeo charter member
[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/issues/100">https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/issues/100</a>
[2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-September/">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-September/</a>
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Hi,
On my opinion, it makes sense to show relation between propietary and
free and open software. Just because we want to people to migrate to
free and open source software, so it is good if they can search for
the software they are currently using to know what software will they
use. It makes sense, it makes life easier on migrations.
Said this, I prefer the "Migrate from" label much better. And sure, no
link to the product, just the name. Why would we need a link? If they
don't know what that software is, the information is useless to them.
If they already know what that software is, the information is
redundant. So having a name is fine, having a link is nonsense.
Is "Migrate from" label aggresive? Not at all. We are OsGeo, we are
promoting FLOSS. Promoting FLOSS means we are encouraging people to
move from propietary to open. That is our philosophy, that is our
motto. If propietary software feels bad because we follow our goals...
well, then maybe they should stop promoting their own software too
because that makes me feel bad.
Regards,
María.
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