<div dir="auto">Jeff,<div dir="auto">Thanks for accepting the nomination.</div><div dir="auto">You have my support.</div><div dir="auto">Maxi</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Il 13 ott 2017 7:06 PM, "Jeff McKenna" <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>> ha scritto:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Cameron, I needed time to think on all of these issues being raised. I never ignored you. I disagree with your public statement that I avoid hard OSGeo questions. I have always tried to represent the OSGeo community, and I have stood up for the community when others could or would not. My problem is that I am sometimes too strong, too passionate, coming off as not caring, when in fact this is opposite: I have as much caring for the OSGeo community as anyone else here.<br>
<br>
Thank you for voicing all of these public concerns of my career. I have tried to answer your concerns. I am sure you disagree with me for most or all of my answers, but I hope you take the time to let my words sink in like I did to all of your words, as that time was me showing you the most respect, how I respect your words and how powerful the online word is today. Please also show me that respect back.<br>
<br>
Maybe we can meet in person in 2018. FOSS4G-Australia 2018!!! Let's do it!!!! :)<br>
<br>
Yours,<br>
<br>
-jeff<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2017-10-12 4:32 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Nicolas, Jeff, OSGeo Community:<br>
<br>
I really like and respect Jeff. He has contributed many great things to OSGeo and touched many of us in positive ways. However, while on the board I've seen personality clashes where Jeff has sent passionate emails with what I consider to be an unacceptable level of aggression and disrespect for a board member, and which I believe has led to community members leaving or becoming disengaged [3].<br>
<br>
Jeff appears to have ignored my question. I'm disappointed but not surprised. I've seen Jeff to be quick to engage on topics and people he agrees with; but ignore tough questions; in the extreme resigning from the board. Maybe I'm being hasty, I see Jeff has just posted his candidate manifesto as I write this and he may explain his previous resignations soon.<br>
<br>
I've said the following about Jeff after he resigned previously [4]:<br>
<br>
/ I see in you someone who has some wonderful characteristics which you apply to OSGeo://<br>
// You are passionate, enthusiastic, dedicated to task.//<br>
//<br>
// There are a few things that sometimes cause friction://<br>
// You are passionate, enthusiastic, dedicated to task.//<br>
//<br>
// As with all of us, our strengths in one circumstance become a weakness in another./<br>
<br>
I love Jeff, but would hope that he provides some of our other excellent board candidates with a chance to be on the board, and hope that Jeff focuses on some of the other roles that he does so well.<br>
<br>
Warm regards, Cameron<br>
<br>
[3] <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-November/033014.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/piperm<wbr>ail/discuss/2015-November/<wbr>033014.html</a><br>
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[4] <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-December/008829.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/piperm<wbr>ail/board/2015-December/008829<wbr>.html</a><br>
<br>
<br>
On 13/10/17 3:32 am, Rob Emanuele wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi Toshikazu, Nick,<br>
<br>
Despite the fact that I have not been around long enough or have not been in the right places to see directly a lot of the impact that Jeff has had on the community, it's very clear from many accounts that he has been an amazing and important figure in OSGeo (a Sol Katz award speaks very clearly to this!). However I feel remiss if I don't point out the following observation: as a newer member to the OSGeo community in the past couple of years, I've seen some intense and surprising conflict happen on the mailing lists that were centered around or included Jeff, which played out in ways that I believe were not good for community, and were also not healing in their conclusions.<br>
<br>
If there is a custom of only speaking positively on someone's nomination thread, then I apologize. I do not want to detract from praise that is well deserved. Is there a more appropriate place talk through, address and hopefully dismiss reservations about a nominee, and to also call for answers to the questions Cameron has posted?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Rob<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Toshikazu SETO <<a href="mailto:tosseto@gmail.com" target="_blank">tosseto@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tosseto@gmail.com" target="_blank">tosseto@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
I also support the second nomination of Jeff McKenna.<br>
<br>
He think important to friendship with all OSGeo communities,<br>
because I am proud of his philosophy.<br>
<br>
I think, this thread will use comments on nominations and should<br>
not deep discuss to previous FOSS4G<br>
circumstanceand responsibility.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Toshikazu<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
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On 12/10/17 4:23 pm, nicolas bozon wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Dear Cameron,<br>
<br>
I appreciate the time and effort you have put into framing questions and remarks for Jeff, although that sounds rather unusual in a Board nomination thread.<br>
<br>
As a Charter Member nominating Jeff, I thought that bygones were bygones when we honored him with the prestigious Sol Katz award at FOSS4G 2016. The thunderous applause from one and all present at the Bundeshaus on August 27th 2016 still rings in my ears. And I think none in our community would have missed the passion that emanated from Jeff in his short acceptance speech, but also the continued effort he has silently put in helping the Foundation since then.<br>
<br>
Whishing all candidates a great campain and election.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Nick<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017, Steven Feldman <<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com" target="_blank">shfeldman@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com" target="_blank">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>>> a écrit :<br>
<br>
Jeff<br>
<br>
I agree with Cameron, I think the charter members are entitled to<br>
an explanation as to why you resigned from the board twice in the<br>
middle of a period of service.<br>
<br>
I, for one, would like to understand the basis on which we can be<br>
assured that if you are elected for a third time the pattern of<br>
resignation will not be repeated<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
______<br>
Steven<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 9 Oct 2017, at 21:42, Cameron Shorter<br>
<<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Jeff,<br>
<br>
I've had a number of people correct me to note that you have<br>
resigned twice from the board. Also from the conference committee<br>
and FOSS4G mentoring role as the global FOSS4G China was facing<br>
very hard decisions based on low registration numbers.<br>
<br>
References:<br>
<br>
Resignation from board in 2015:<br>
<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-December/008820.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/piperm<wbr>ail/board/2015-December/008820<wbr>.html</a><br>
<<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-December/008820.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/piper<wbr>mail/board/2015-December/00882<wbr>0.html</a>><br>
<br>
Resignation from board and conference committee in 2012:<br>
<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-February/004544.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/piperm<wbr>ail/board/2012-February/004544<wbr>.html</a><br>
<<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-February/004544.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/piper<wbr>mail/board/2012-February/00454<wbr>4.html</a>><br>
<br>
Stepping back from mentoring FOSS4G China:<br>
<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/004514.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/piperm<wbr>ail/board/2012-January/004514.<wbr>html</a><br>
<<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/004514.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/piper<wbr>mail/board/2012-January/004514<wbr>.html</a>><br>
<br>
Lessons Learned from FOSS4G China:<br>
<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2012_Lessons_Learned" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FO<wbr>SS4G_2012_Lessons_Learned</a><br>
<<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2012_Lessons_Learned" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/F<wbr>OSS4G_2012_Lessons_Learned</a>><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 9/10/17 10:01 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Jeff,<br>
<br>
While I agree with others that you have been very enthusiastic<br>
toward OSGeo ideals, I'm also believe that there are some<br>
unanswered questions which should be addressed.<br>
<br>
In particular, a while back you stepped down from the OSGeo<br>
Board mid-term, while you were in the position of OSGeo<br>
president. I don't think a public explanation was provided, but<br>
I was aware that there was some passionate discussion happening<br>
in public email lists at the time.<br>
<br>
If you are considering sitting on the board again, I think an<br>
explanation should be provided.<br>
<br>
Regards, Cameron<br>
<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
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