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    <p>In 2016 we also streamed the whole conference - for free.</p>
    <p>Till<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 18.10.2017 um 20:06 schrieb Nonie
      Castro:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Just
            a thought – this year
            <a href="http://nacis.org/annual-meeting/current-meeting/"
              moz-do-not-send="true">NACIS livestreamed their entire
              conference</a> to their members.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Maybe
            charging a fee to receive streams of the FOSS4G sessions
            would allow some people to attend that couldn’t otherwise
            afford to.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
            count myself in that number.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank
                    you,
                    <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Nonie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                  </span><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#012059">Nonie
                      Castro<br>
                      Senior GIS Specialist</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><br>
                    <br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
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            Discuss [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]
            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrea Aime<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 18, 2017 3:30 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Bruce Bannerman<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> discuss<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Costly FOSS4Gs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 8:39 AM,
                Bruce Bannerman <<a
                  href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>>
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">When you look at the costs associated
                with a person attending a typical international FOSS4G
                event, the actual conference fees a small amount of the
                actual cost.<br>
                <br>
                Consider airfares, transportation, accomodation, meals,
                lost wages etc. There is nothing that an LOC can do
                about these individual costs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Ah hem, nothing that the LOC can do
                  once the conference site is chosen, but something that
                  OSGeo can do when assigning the location and timing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">And I believe that is happening, if
                  I'm not wrong for the first time the LOC needs to
                  provide expected cost of airfare and accommodation as
                  part<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">of their proposal, which will make
                  people consider carefully that aspect too. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Another aspect that was not cited
                  but that I heard in conversations and believe is
                  important, it's that it is really hard to compress<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">the cost of a large conference: the
                  LOC needs a place that can host 1000 people, and that
                  can give internet to this many people,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">that places forces the catering
                  package on you (I've been told by several conference
                  chairs there no way to dodge that) and the <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">two together make up for a large
                  amount of the cost.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">So, besides some exceptions (think
                  FOSDEM) it seems the only way to setup a cheaper
                  conference is to make a smaller<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">one that can be hosted at a
                  university or in a smaller conference center. Hence
                  the focus on the local conferences.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">I believe the threshold is at
                  around 500 people, larger than that one is hung on the
                  costly options.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Andrea<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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