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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Hi Cameron,</span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Thank you for your excellent</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">suggestions. I agree with the steps you mentioned. In fact, I send the mail out on these initiatives to create
awareness (step 1 in your mail) and then find ideas from the community to find best way forward .</span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">In UNGGIM though I knew about the Academic Network and its activities , I came across the Private sector network only recently. I immediately checked the list of organisations listed in their website and saw many Properitery
GIS vendors joined and very active (they are very smart) but</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I did not see many OSGeo SMEs listed there so I immediately emailed the community</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">to create awareness, so those interested join individually</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">and receive information on its activities. It is important there are no monopolies created by anyone , hence having many different organisations from different perspectives in all initiatives</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">is important for balance in my humble opinion.</span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I am new to GEO . It was only from last 6 months (after I</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">participated in the GEO Plenary) , I became more aware of its excellent work in
various domains and I realised the importance of spreading Open Principles in this</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">esp. In Capacity Development [1]. In fact, we don’t need formal MoU to do this, we can all
do this in our individual capacities by spreading Open ideas in all networks and initiatives. I have always been doing by best to promote Open Principles in Geo when ever I get a chance in whichever forum :-)</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Best wishes,</span></p>
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[1] <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2018-February/011243.html" class="OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk115892" previewremoved="true">
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Discuss <discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 February 2018 19:45<br>
<b>To:</b> discuss@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector</font>
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<p>Suchith, I agree with Marc's points.</p>
<p>I notice a similar discussion on the OSGeo Board thread about joining GEO.</p>
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<p>I think there is little value in setting up "trophy" MOUs or becoming members of communities unless we have specific community members who are actively wanting to get involved. So steps I'd suggest:</p>
<p>1. Find our community members who want involvement</p>
<p>2. If our community members feel that joining some external group will help our community be more effective, then OSGeo supports them in the activity.</p>
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<p>At the moment, I don't think we have passed step 1 yet.<br>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 2/2/18 12:03 am, Suchith Anand wrote:<br>
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<p style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Thanks Marc. <span style="font-size:12pt">I am trying to think ideas to make sure that OSGeo is involved in all levels at all different forums for maximising impact. We are very active in the UNGGIM Academic Network
(thanks to Maria).</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-January/037059.html" class="x_OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk444476" previewremoved="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-January/037059.html</a> <br>
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<p style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">We need to be more active in regional networks in UNGGIM and spread our ideas.<span style="font-size:12pt">We need champions to spread ideas in UNGGIM Private Sector and the main way to do this is to join these networks
. As far as I am aware they are free to join at </span><span style="font-size:12pt; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><a href="http://unggim-psn.org/psn-members.html" id="LPlnk50318" style="font-size:12pt; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif" previewremoved="true"><span id="LPlnk50318">http://unggim-psn.org/psn-members.html</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"> </span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Best wishes,</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 01 February 2018 11:43<br>
<b>To:</b> Suchith Anand<br>
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<div dir="auto">Thx Suchith,
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<div>However I struggle to see the opportunities for SME’s in particular. Especially, since these make up for the large part of the present OSGeo sponsors.</div>
<div>I think the argument to join the initiative needs to be SMART. Otherwise it is a plea in a virtual ocean of requests upon open source businesses.</div>
<div>Apologies, but I can not bolster the argument for joining. Perhaps others on the list can help you. <br>
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<div>Marc Vloemans</div>
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Op 1 feb. 2018 om 12:33 heeft Suchith Anand <<a href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> het volgende geschreven:<br>
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<p style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">I do not have any expertise in this but seeing all the companies who have joined this already ( including many proprietary GIS companies), it is important that SMEs in the OSGeo ecosytem should be part of this to make
sure there is balance of opportunities for everyone.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0"><span style="font-size:12pt">Best wishes,</span><br>
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sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Marc Vloemans <<a href="mailto:marcvloemans1@gmail.com">marcvloemans1@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 01 February 2018 11:24<br>
<b>To:</b> Suchith Anand<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector</font>
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<div dir="auto">Hi Suchith,
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<div>What would be the business value of joining as an SME or other (commercial) company?<br>
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<div id="x_x_x_AppleMailSignature">Kind regards,<br>
<div>Marc Vloemans</div>
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Op 1 feb. 2018 om 12:09 heeft Suchith Anand <<a href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> het volgende geschreven:<br>
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There are lot of SMEs in the OSGeo ecosystem and I think this will be a good opportunity for the commercial sector in the OSGeo ecosystem [2] to join this network at <a href="http://unggim-psn.org/psn-members.html" class="x_x_x_OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk50318" previewremoved="true">http://unggim-psn.org/psn-members.html</a>
and proactively engage with UNGGIM Private Sector<br>
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Suchith<br>
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