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    <p>Ok.  But, and this may be a dumb question, it's a very fancy,
      expensive looking camera - one presumes that the person taking the
      pictures has the software that goes with it.  Can one not ask the
      person providing the imagery to convert the raw files to a more
      usable format?</p>
    <p>Miles Fidelman<br>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/21/18 8:03 PM, Tim Uckun wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">They don't list prices for their software and there
        are no downloads. I am guessing they charge for the software and
        knowing this company it's not going to be cheap.
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:28 PM, Miles
          Fidelman <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:mfidelman@meetinghouse.net" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">mfidelman@meetinghouse.net</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <p>According to the camera's data sheet, their FramePro
                software will take the proprietary format and output
                "Distortion-free, 8 and 16-bit JPEG, TIFF and BSQ images
                with RGB, RGBN, NRG, NIR and NDVI band combinations"</p>
              <p>It doesn't really seem unreasonable for a camera to use
                a proprietary internal format, as long as they provide
                software to convert it to standard formats. 
                Particularly if it's a camera with some special sensor
                characteristics.</p>
              <p>The real question is whether they provide their
                software with the camera, or whether you have to pay
                beaucoup bucks for it.</p>
              <p>Miles Fidelman<br>
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                  <div class="m_-5990838746691440053moz-cite-prefix">On
                    3/21/18 7:13 PM, Tim Uckun wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">I just upgraded but no luck with this
                      file. Leica still sells this camera so they have
                      no incentive to open up their formats. You can
                      only process this file with their software
                      apparently.  
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at
                        4:28 AM, Newcomb, Doug <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            href="mailto:doug_newcomb@fws.gov"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">doug_newcomb@fws.gov</a>></span>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Tim, 
                            <div>A new version of Rawtherapee came out
                              today,  Also, <a
href="http://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Adding_Support_for_New_Raw_Formats"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://rawpedia.rawthera<wbr>pee.com/Adding_Support_for_<wbr>New_Raw_Formats</a> </div>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 20,
                                  2018 at 8:18 AM, Tim Uckun <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                      href="mailto:timuckun@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">timuckun@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">Yea that was one of
                                      the first ones I tried. It looks
                                      like this raw file is proprietary
                                      so nothing is going to open it. </div>
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                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                            Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:57
                                            AM, Newcomb, Doug <span
                                              dir="ltr"><<a
                                                href="mailto:doug_newcomb@fws.gov"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">doug_newcomb@fws.gov</a>></span>
                                            wrote:<br>
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                                              <div dir="ltr">Have you
                                                looked at darktable , <a
href="https://www.darktable.org/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.darktable.org/</a>? 
                                                It works with a lot of
                                                Raw image formats.  Not
                                                sure if it will handle
                                                any georeferencing
                                                information that might
                                                be associated with the
                                                image.
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                                                <div>Doug</div>
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                                                      Mon, Mar 19, 2018
                                                      at 7:02 PM, Tim
                                                      Uckun <span
                                                        dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:timuckun@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">timuckun@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                      wrote:<br>
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                                                        <div dir="ltr">Hi
                                                          All.
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                                                          <div>I am
                                                          trying to deal
                                                          with output
                                                          from a Leica
                                                          RCD30 camera
                                                          used in Aerial
                                                          surveying. The
                                                          camera outputs
                                                          .RAW files but
                                                          these files
                                                          are not
                                                          recognized by
                                                          any of the
                                                          tools I have
                                                          used so far. 
                                                          Oddly enough
                                                          they actually
                                                          have tiff
                                                          headers but
                                                          renaming them
                                                          to .tiff
                                                          doesn't work
                                                          either. </div>
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                                                          <div>If
                                                          anybody has
                                                          any experience
                                                          decoding these
                                                          files and
                                                          turning them
                                                          into geotiffs
                                                          I would
                                                          appreciate it
                                                          if they
                                                          dropped me a
                                                          line.</div>
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                                                          <div>Thanks in
                                                          advance.</div>
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                                                          <div>Doug
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Raleigh, NC</a></div>
                                                          <div>919-856-4520
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">doug_newcomb@fws.gov</a></div>
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                                            <div>USFWS</div>
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                                                Pylon Dr</a></div>
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href="https://maps.google.com/?q=551F+Pylon+Dr+Raleigh,+NC&entry=gmail&source=g"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">Raleigh,
                                                NC</a></div>
                                            <div>919-856-4520 ext. 14 <a
href="mailto:doug_newcomb@fws.gov" target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">doug_newcomb@fws.gov</a></div>
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