<div>Dear Patrick,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I am a member of the PyWPS PSC, a project that graduated just recently. PyWPS was in active incubation for 3 years; it was indeed a long process, but along the way it was generally clear what we were missing to reach the finish line.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I would suggest the Worldwind PSC to share the project incubation check list and publicly seek help to complete the most difficult items.</div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes for Worldwind. Regards.</div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user"><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div>Luís Moreira de Sousa<br></div><div>Bowlespark 8<br></div><div>6701 DN Wageningen<br></div><div>The Netherlands<br></div><div>Phone: +31 628 544 755<br></div><div>Email: <a href="mailto:luis.de.sousa@protonmail.ch">luis.de.sousa@protonmail.ch</a><br></div><div>RingID: ring:7ca91d83f4f9dec82fec9f1144b8e5c1ef2a110c<br></div><div>URL: <a href="https://ldesousa.github.io">https://ldesousa.github.io</a><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton">Sent with <a href="https://protonmail.com" target="_blank">ProtonMail</a> Secure Email.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> On June 11, 2018 1:58 AM, Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div dir="ltr" style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;" id="divtagdefaultwrapper"><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Hi Patrick,<br></p><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br></p><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Thanks for your email and your contributions to OSGeo Principles over the years . Though I do not have background knowledge of the incubation  discussions that you went through in OSGeo , I do hope that Worldwind becomes
 part of the OSGeo family in the near future. We will keep trying.<br></p><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br></p><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">GeoForAll have always welcomed Worldwind and other <span class="size" style="font-size:12pt"> like minded initiatives  </span><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt">as part of our outreach efforts in education </span><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt"> </span><span class="size" style="font-size:16px">and we are hoping that this will lead in the future for building more  </span>synergies<span class="size" style="font-size:16px"> . The Europa challenge has been a great boost for GeoForAll education efforts and we are grateful
 for your tireless work over the years for making this possible.</span><br></p><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"></span><br></p><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px">I want to wish you the very best for the next chapter of your life. Great idea to go back to school teaching after your retirement. That will also help the GeoForAll School Education efforts ... Thanks
 again for your contributions to Open Principles in education.</span><br></p><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px">Best wishes,</span><br></p><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"></span><br></p><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px">Suchith</span><br></p><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br></p><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><hr tabindex="-1" style="display:inline-block;width:98%"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="divRplyFwdMsg"><div><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="colour" style="color:#000000"><b>From:</b> Discuss <discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <patrick.hogan@nasa.gov><br> <b>Sent:</b> 09 June 2018 23:31<br> <b>To:</b> Jody Garnett; OSGeo-incubator<br> <b>Cc:</b> ML osgeo discuss; geoforall@lists.osgeo.org<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] osgeo board request world wind consider joining the foundation</span></span> </div><div> <br></div></div><div lang="EN-US"><div class="x_WordSection1"><p class="x_MsoNormal"><a class="OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk561446" name="x__MailEndCompose"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#1f497d"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Jody, Howdy!</span></span></span></span></span></span></a><br></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#1f497d"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#1f497d"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Despite every attempt to support OSGeo and the principles therein, WorldWind seems to always be met with something
 missing. I am not WorldWind. WorldWind is an open source platform that has been dedicated to delivering geospatial data for 15 years now.</span></span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#1f497d"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#1f497d"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">I’m sure WorldWind would like to be embraced by OSGeo, but somehow it seems WorldWind has never learned the
 special handshake. I am old now and retiring soon, so others will need to take the lead, if there is one to take. I have repeatedly expressed the desire for WorldWind to be, as you put it, “a part of the OSGeo family.”</span></span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#1f497d"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#1f497d"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">As an ESA-NASA open source project, in full support of OSGeo principles, I do not understand why WorldWind
 is not “part of the OSGeo family.” I hope OSGeo will choose to ^adopt^ ESA-NASA WorldWind someday as part of their family, someday.</span></span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#1f497d"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#1f497d"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">For my part, I plan to return to my former career, some 30-plus years ago, as a High School science teacher.
 Now I am looking forward to work with Kindergarten kids, pretty much the ‘unhinged’ ^wild bunch^ with whom I feel closest too.</span></span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#1f497d"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#1f497d"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">May OSGeo be the ‘big tent’ it can be for the world of Open Source Geospatial software.</span></span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#1f497d"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#1f497d"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">-Patrick</span></span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#1f497d"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span class="font" style="font-family:Tahoma"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><b><span class="font" style="font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">From:</span></span></b></span></span></b><span class="font" style="font-family:Tahoma"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"> Jody Garnett [mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com] <br> <b><b>Sent:</b></b> Saturday, June 9, 2018 10:05 AM<br> <b><b>To:</b></b> Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); OSGeo-incubator<br> <b><b>Subject:</b></b> osgeo board request world wind consider joining the foundation</span></span></span></span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt"> </span></span></span><br></p><div><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt">Morning Patrick (and incubation list).</span></span></span><br></p><div><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt"> </span></span></span><br></p></div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt">The most recent board meeting has a request for the incubation committee to ask you about World Wind joining OSGeo. See <a class="OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk75188" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2018-06-06#Discuss_and_approve_OSGeo_as_partner_for_UN_World_Challenge_2018">Discuss
 and approve OSGeo as partner for UN World Challenge 2018</a>.</span></span></span><br></p></div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt"> </span></span></span><br></p></div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt">As I understand it the GeoForAll is wanting to take part due to the educational outreach nature of the challenge, but feels awkward since the project is not part of
 the OSGeo family. The way I figure it is that GeoForAll, just like the foundation, has a goal of supporting the adoption of all open source spatial projects. And should be held back by what projects have decide to join our foundation.</span></span></span><br></p></div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt"> </span></span></span><br></p></div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt">By the same token our website lists all open source mapping projects, including <a class="OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk237955" href="https://www.osgeo.org/projects/esa-nasa-worldwind/"> ESA-NASA World Wind</a>. That page is really sparse and does not tell the public very much about the project, perhaps that is something to work on? Indeed if you fill in some more information it will show up in choose-a-project when visitors are seeking new
 software.</span></span></span><br></p></div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt"> </span></span></span><br></p></div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt">With respect to World Wind joining the foundation as a community project the invitation is made to all open source mapping projects, we are here if you have time to
 take part in our family. Until then we are happy to support world wind in a more limited capacity (Website,GeoForAll).</span></span></span><br></p></div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt"> </span></span></span><br></p></div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt">All the best and happy mapping</span></span></span><br></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt">--</span></span></span><br></p></div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="font" style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="size" style="font-size:12pt">Jody Garnett</span></span></span><br></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><pre>This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee
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