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<p>Hi Christian,</p>
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<p>while I could not agree more to what you say there is one point
to disagree with:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24.07.2018 18:43, Christian Willmes
wrote:<br>
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<p>Dear Suchith,<br>
<br>
I understand your point, and I also support your views on this,
but this is from my perspective a too personal/particular issue,
as to have it as an "OSGeo open letter". Also, because this is
more of an ICA and not so much an OSGeo issue, I think. <br>
<br>
First, I would keep it more general. You address a particular
issue (UN SDG book published by esri), and also some personal
background (this should not matter to the addressed subject). I
would recommend you keep it from being personal and denouncing
proprietary GIS vendors. If a company plays by the rules of
science, there is nothing wrong about that company publishing a
scientific book. I.e. almost all book publishers are commercial
companies with interests somehow and somewhere.<br>
<br>
You need to “attack” scientific “wrong doing” by that particular
company in conducting the editing and publication of that book.
Publishing books if done correctly is not wrong, even by a
vendor with vested interests. But if you witness, for example,
that submissions using open source GIS solutions are
disadvantaged against the submissions using products of the
proprietary GIS vendor publishing the book, that would be the
point to raise and attack.<br>
<br>
Second, better write about how it should be done to avoid this
negative “Fake Science” things from happening. Here the idea of
Open Science and Reproducible Science is key, i.e. the most
openness and transparency possible. We just need more
transparency in science and also in the whole process of
editing/reviewing and publishing a book. And this is where OSGeo
can contribute. Basically, real reproducible and open science is
not possible without open source software. If you can’t see how
something is implemented, you can not really reproduce the
results.<br>
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No. Open science and open source software are fundamentally
different things. For example, if you derive stats from some data
set via SQL it does not matter whether it comes from open-source
PostgreSQL or from proprietary Oracle. Because the SQL language in
its syntax and semantics is standardized, and it is assured thereby
that both systems will deliver the same results. So standards
actually are a prerequisite for science to be comparable, but surely
not open source.<br>
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my 2 cents,<br>
Peter<br>
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Third, if you accuse someone of “Fake Science” please make sure
to offer evidence about this particular misconduct. If you fail
to do so, you are creating “fake news” yourself. Sorry, no
offense at you personally, but I think its not a good idea to
publish this letter in OSGeo's or GeoForAll's name. At least not
with these accusations or even notion of "Fake Science" in it.<br>
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<p>To be clear, I share your view that it is bad, if esri would
publish a book written by scientists in the context of a United
Nations initiative to maybe only advertise its own product, but
until any misconduct is proven, you can't accuse esri or ICA of
"Fake Science".</p>
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Best regards,<br>
Christian<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 24.07.2018 um 11:53 schrieb
Suchith Anand:<br>
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just a volunteer and I feel sad that</span></span><span
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Scholarly publications of Scientific Associations.</span></p>
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of all Officers of Scientific Associations/Organisations</span><span
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take steps to </span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
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protect independent peer review frameworks</span></span><span
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of Scientific Associations. I am hopeful and confident
that that they all will do this for the future.</span><br>
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to look at the future not focus on mistakes made in past .
Some mistakes have been made and I understand that this is
corrected. We are all human , so we all make mistakes</span><span
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past mistakes but look at ideas on how we can strengthen
the independent peer review frameworks</span><span
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Cartographic Association (ICA) is my organisation for
which</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size:
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style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I have volunteered for the
last 15 years and continuing . I have great respect for
everyone in this great global community . The SDG book is
a community effort (not any individual’s book project) . I
have requested from the start (as soon as I came to know)
for openness and transparency in decision making for
selecting the publisher. esp. as this book is on UN SDG .
I understand that ICA has now corrected the mistake .
Everyone makes mistakes and it takes courage to
acknowledge and correct the mistakes .Compassion and
forgiveness are important values .</span><span
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has listened to my concerns and rectified this . So I
don’t have any issues with ICA or any colleagues in ICA.
We might have difference in opinions on some issues and
having free and open discussions is in my humble opinion
the best way to learn each others perspectives and find
best solutions to move forward.</span></p>
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to the draft by 30th July 2018. I am on family holidays (
with no internet ) in first week of August, so I will aim
to send this before I go on holidays.</span><br>
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style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;
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Open Letter on the importance to protecting independent
peer review frameworks</span><span style="color: rgb(0,
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sans-serif;"> </span></b><span style="color: rgb(0, 0,
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Helvetica, sans-serif;">for Scholarly publications of
Scientific Associations</span></b></span></p>
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publications (edited books, journals etc) from
scientific associations</span><span style="font-size:
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sans-serif;">organisations has</span></span><span
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Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">credibility and reputation
because of strong independent peer review frameworks </span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">. We are very fortunate in
the Geospatial domain to have many reputed Scientific
Associations and organisations (ICA, IGU, ISPRS,
IEEE-GRSS, IAG etc) who have over many decades provided
strong leadership in advancement of geo science.</span></p>
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<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
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"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> <span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">In times of fake news,
science is usually one of those areas that can give us
orientation and we can rely on.</span><span style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,
Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,
Helvetica, sans-serif;">Independent peer review frameworks</span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">for Scholarly publications
is among the foundations of good science. However, this is</span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">obviously at risk now. </span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">If a professional
association takes</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">agrees to publish scholarly publications
(edited books etc)</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">through a GIS vendor’s press then there is
potential issues with independent peer review and ensuring
scientific quality. It is only natural that any GIS vendor
publication press to have vested interests in promoting
their products and</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">agenda. It also makes it easy for the vendor
to get endorsement for their</span><span style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,
Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">products from scientific
and professional organisations using this route. </span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">Independent peer review is the fundamental
aspect of science and we need to ensure all steps to
protect this.</span></span></p>
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"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> <span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">We are also now seeing a
very disturbing trend with</span><span style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,
Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,
Helvetica, sans-serif;">some vendors even starting to
trademark “ science” for marketing/sales of their</span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">products and </span><span
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Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">“science” is being misused
for vendor marketing/sales! . I have raised this issue
through an open letter [1] .</span><span style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,
Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,
Helvetica, sans-serif;">Science is not a commodity to be
marketed or sold by any vendor owners! I am very sad and
disappointed to see this degrading of science happening.
Scientific organisations should not endorse any specific
vendor products etc as “Science” and take strong moral
stand against</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">marketing of products as “Science’ by any
vendor owners!</span></p>
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"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> <span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I am a volunteer for the
ICA for the last 15 years and always done my best in my
small way to support ICA . Around one year back, i</span><i><span
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font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">n the light
of the </span></i><a href="http://mapyear.org/"
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moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color: #e4af0a"><i><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;
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Map Year (IMY)</span></i></span></a><i><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">, the </span></i><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The International
Cartographic Association (ICA) started an excellent
initiative </span><i><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">for</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">highlighting the value of cartography by
“mapping” the </span></i><a
href="https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/"
id="LPlnk307766" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color: #e4af0a"><i><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">UN
sustainable development goals</span></i></span></a><i><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">.</span></i><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> Building upon this, The
ICA community started work on a book on UN SDG Mapping</span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">building upon the posters
of the various commissions on this [2]. This is a great
community initiative developed with inputs from all
colleagues in commissions of the ICA. The Open Source
Geospatial Commission colleagues also contributed our
inputs for this. When the book project was announced, I
did my best to contact colleagues to contribute to this in
good faith. I didn’t have the faintest idea that it was
being planned to be published through a properitary GIS
vendor publication press! </span> <span style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,
Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,
Helvetica, sans-serif;">As soon as I came to know about
this, I did contact Menno -Jan with my concerns and
requested him that as this is a community book project to
please allow open discussions and keep the community
updated [3] . I was very surprised that there was no open
and transparent discussions on selecting the book
publisher was done.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);
min-height: 14px;"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> <span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">From an email from Anthony
Robinson on 16th July 2018, I understand now that ICA is
not proceeding with the vendor GIS publication press (Esri
press)</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size:
11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">for the SDG book and I
welcome this. But it is</span><span style="color: rgb(0,
0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">important</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0,
0); font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">we need to be learn lessons from this mistake
and not repeat this in future</span><span style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">. </span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">We are all humans and make mistakes.</span></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);
min-height: 14px;"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> <span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I fully respect the right
of individuals publishing their personal work [1] in any
publication house that they wish. But as officers of
Scientific Organisations, esp. in times of some vendor
owners doing marketing/sales on “Science” , I request
all colleagues to be careful not to do anything that will
undermine independent peer review process.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);
min-height: 14px;"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> <span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I am suggesting some
initial ideas that we all can take as a community to help
reduce this problem in the future</span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> </p>
<ul style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;">
<li><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">All Scientific </span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">Associations and organisations should </span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">ensure that there is full open and
transparent discussions allowed before choosing any
publishers of scholarly publications (Edited Books
etc). </span></span><br>
</li>
</ul>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> </p>
<ul style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;">
<li><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">It is
important that GIS scientific associations/organisations
take strong moral stand against taking
sponsorship/royalty etc </span><span style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,
Helvetica, sans-serif;">for scholarly publications from
all GIS vendors . Independent peer review system is the
fundamental aspect of science. So I am humbly requesting
all Scientific organisations to</span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">not use </span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">any GIS
vendor controlled press for publishing scholarly outputs
(edited books etc).</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0,
0); font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;"> </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">GIS scientific organisations should not</span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">tak</span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">e</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> any
sponsorship or royalty for scholarly publications (</span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">books, journals etc) from any GIS vendors
. If a scientific association takes</span></span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">agrees to
publish scholarly publications (edited books etc)</span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
through the vendor’s press then there is potential
issues with independent peer review and ensuring
scientific quality. It is only natural that any GIS
vendor publication press to have vested interests in
promoting their products and agenda. It also makes it
easy for the vendor to get endorsement for their
products from scientific and professional
organisations using this route. </span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">Independent peer review is the
fundamental aspect of science and we need to ensure
all steps to protect this.</span></span><br>
</li>
</ul>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"></span>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> </p>
<ul style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;">
<li><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Officers of
Scientific Organisations and Editors of all GIS
journals </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">declare any conflict of interest with any
vendors (funding/sponsorship/royalties etc received
from any GIS vendors currently or in the past) to ensure
transparency and good practices.They should not support
any vendors interest directly or indirectly. Scientific
organisations should not endorse any specific vendor
products etc as “Science” and take strong moral stand
against marketing of products as “Science’ by any
vendor owners!</span><br>
</li>
</ul>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> </p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);
min-height: 14px;"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);
min-height: 14px;"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> <span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I am concerned with the
wider degradation of science and education happening in
different sectors. This is a moral issue and needs all
organisations globally in science and education working
together.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);
min-height: 14px;"> <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br>
</span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);
min-height: 14px;"> <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br>
</span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; line-height: normal; min-height: 14px;"> <span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica
Neue"; font-size: 12px;"><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">It is
the fundamental </span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">duty of all </span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif;">Officers of Scientific Organisations</span></span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">to guard and protect
independent peer review frameworks</span><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span><font
face="Helvetica Neue"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">for
Scholarly publications of Scientific Associations. I am
hopeful and confident that that they will do this for
the future.</span></font><br>
</p>
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normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);
min-height: 14px;"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> <span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Best wishes,</span></p>
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normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
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normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);"> <span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Suchith</span></p>
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normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);
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min-height: 14px;"> <br>
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normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(228, 175, 10);"> <span
style="color: #454545">[1] <a
href="https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/geospatial-ig/post/open-letter-importance-scientific-freedom-and-public-good"
id="LPlnk527628" class="OWAAutoLink"
previewremoved="true" moz-do-not-send="true"> <span
style="color: rgb(228, 175, 10);">https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/geospatial-ig/post/open-letter-importance-scientific-freedom-and-public-good</span></a></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(228, 175, 10);"> <span
style="color: #454545">[2] <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://</a><a
href="http://icaci.org/maps-and-sustainable-development-goals/"
id="LPlnk925436" class="OWAAutoLink"
previewremoved="true" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color: #e4af0a">icaci.org/maps-and-sustainable-development-goals/</span></a></span></p>
<p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(228, 175, 10);"> <span
style="color: #454545">[3] <a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/geoforall/2017-June/003790.html"
id="LPlnk76817" class="OWAAutoLink"
previewremoved="true" moz-do-not-send="true"> <span
style="color: rgb(228, 175, 10);">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/geoforall/2017-June/003790.html</span></a></span></p>
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normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(228, 175, 10);"> <span
style="color: #454545">[4] <a
href="https://esripress.esri.com/display/index.cfm?fuseaction=display&websiteID=254&moduleID=0"
id="LPlnk619170" class="OWAAutoLink"
previewremoved="true" moz-do-not-send="true"> <span
style="color: #e4af0a">https://esripress.esri.com/display/index.cfm?fuseaction=display&websiteID=254&moduleID=0</span></a> </span></p>
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