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    <p>-0 from me for an OSM basemap for OSGeoLive (unless someone wants
      to enhance the image).</p>
    <p>Reasons: While I think it is great to promote OSM, I think that
      it is best if we can add a bit of creative flair to each OSGeoLive
      release. Using OSM is using something most of us will already be
      familiar with and won't have a "Wow" factor (unless someone
      volunteers to develop a new and cool style for the basemap). Also,
      we want each release to look different to the last so that people
      can easily recognise the difference, and using an OSM image every
      year won't show such an obvious difference (unless combined with
      another image in some cool way).<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/07/2018 6:26 AM, Ketty Adoch
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          you Mark!</div>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">+1 to
          the OSM Map with a focus on Dar Es Salaam- <a
            href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472"
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                        face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans serif">PS:
                        I do not even see our people on Nikolaj Cyon's
                        imagined map, perhaps we were still in transit
                        to Uganda from the Ethiopian Mountains or
                        somewhere in the <span>Bahr el Ghazal</span>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 6:34 PM, Mark
            Iliffe <span dir="ltr"><<a
                href="mailto:markiliffe@gmail.com" target="_blank"
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              <div dir="auto">Hi All,
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                <div>There is a discussion below that needs your voice!</div>
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                <div>Cheers,</div>
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                <div>Mark<br>
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                    Begin forwarded message:<br>
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                    <div><b>From:</b> Maelle Vercauteren <<a
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                        moz-do-not-send="true">mavercau@ulb.ac.be</a>><br>
                      <b>Date:</b> 29 July 2018 at 11:01:25 GMT-4<br>
                      <b>To:</b> Ben Caradoc-Davies <<a
                        href="mailto:ben@transient.nz" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">ben@transient.nz</a>><br>
                      <b>Cc:</b> OSGeo Discussions <<a
                        href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>>,
                      <a href="mailto:osgeolive@lists.osgeo.org"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">osgeolive@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> <b>Re: [OSGeo-Discuss]
                        [OSGeoLive] Suggestions for a background image
                        for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme</b><br>
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                      <div dir="ltr"> <span></span>Hello,<br>
                        <br>
                        I take this occasion to share this map of Africa
                        that I like. It was Africa if colonialism had
                        not occurred as imagined by Nikolaj Cyon :<br>
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                        <a
                          href="https://www.cyon.se/#/alkebulan-1260-ah/"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.cyon.se/#/<wbr>alkebulan-1260-ah/</a><br>
                        <br>
                        If the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es
                        Salaam LOC likes it too, we could try to contact
                        the artist and see if we can use it...<br>
                        <br>
                        Kind Regards,<br>
                        Maë//e</div>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">2018-07-29 0:17
                          GMT+02:00 Ben Caradoc-Davies <span dir="ltr"><<a
                              href="mailto:ben@transient.nz"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ben@transient.nz</a>></span>:<br>
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                            style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                            #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Or an
                            historical noncolonial or postcolonial map
                            of Tanzania or Dar es Salaam? Or is this
                            even a concern? I would like advice from the
                            LOC. It would be great to give Dar es Salaam
                            the same prominence (OSGeoLive background)
                            as previous FOSS4G hosts.<br>
                            <br>
                            The Africa list rejects email from
                            nonsubscribers such as myself.  :-(<br>
                            <br>
                            Kind regards,<br>
                            Ben.
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                                On 29/07/18 04:15, Astrid Emde (OSGeo)
                                wrote:<br>
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                                  Hello all,<br>
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                                  Ben you are with your comment.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  What do you think instead about an
                                  actual OSM Map from Dar Es Salaam -
                                  that shows how great the region is
                                  mapped<br>
                                  <a
                                    href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472"
                                    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/<wbr>#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472</a><br>
                                  <br>
                                  or maybe a nice photo instead of a
                                  map.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Astrid<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Am 28.07.2018 00:17 schrieb Ben
                                  Caradoc-Davies:<br>
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                                    I love historical maps. However,
                                    maps have been both the tool and<br>
                                    emblem of colonisation, by which
                                    Africa has been particularly badly<br>
                                    affected. The choice of an
                                    historical map of Africa for the
                                    OSGeoLive<br>
                                    background must be informed by the
                                    actions of those who used it and<br>
                                    their impact on the people of
                                    Africa, as well consider of the<br>
                                    current-day appropriateness of the
                                    labels used on the map. I would<br>
                                    follow the advice of the Africa
                                    Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam<br>
                                    LOC.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Kind regards,<br>
                                    Ben.<br>
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                                    On 28/07/18 09:23, Mark Iliffe
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                                      I would vote for the map that
                                      you'd listed, but linking in the
                                      Africa Local<br>
                                      Chapter :-)<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Cheers,<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Mark<br>
                                      <br>
                                      On 27 July 2018 at 08:32, Cameron
                                      Shorter <<a
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                                        The time has come to select a
                                        background image for our next
                                        OSGeoLive<br>
                                        release, which is scheduled to
                                        be ready in time for FOSS4G Dar
                                        es Salaam,<br>
                                        and we are looking for
                                        inspiration for a background
                                        image.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Traditionally, we have drawn
                                        inspiration from the image from
                                        the<br>
                                        conference location, and are
                                        hoping that someone with a
                                        mapping or artistic<br>
                                        eye can suggest an interesting
                                        map, or image that we can use.
                                        The image<br>
                                        needs to be available under an
                                        open license, and will likely
                                        need to be<br>
                                        shaded so that icons will still
                                        stand out against it.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        I'm wondering whether a historic
                                        navigating chart of Africa would
                                        be good?<br>
                                        Maybe something like this:<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <a
href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AMH-7121-KB_Map_of_Africa.jpg"
                                          rel="noreferrer"
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                                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://commons.wikimedia.org/<wbr>wiki/File:AMH-7121-KB_Map_of_A<wbr>frica.jpg</a><br>
                                        <br>
                                        Or maybe a drawing of some of
                                        the big African animals.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Are there any people in the
                                        mapping or African communities
                                        who would be<br>
                                        willing to help us out here?<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Warm regards,<br>
                                        <br>
                                        -- <br>
                                        Cameron Shorter<br>
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