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    <p>I've reached out to the artist to ask if they are interested in
      sharing an image under an open license with us. Lets see if they
      respond.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/07/2018 7:07 PM, Maelle
      Vercauteren wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Dear all,<br>
        <br>
        Thanks for your comment and feedback.<br>
        <br>
        Cameron, I agree with you. I can contact the artist (<a
          href="https://www.cyon.se/about/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.cyon.se/about/</a>)
        if you want<br>
        <br>
        or somebody from Africa Local Chapter or the Dar es Salaam LOC
        do it…<br>
        <br>
        or I do it and can put somebody of you in cc for the follow-up ?<br>
        <br>
        What do you think ?<br>
        <br>
        Kind Regards,<br>
        <br>
        Maë//e<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2018-07-30 9:25 GMT+02:00 Cameron
          Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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              <p>Indeed, this is a beautiful collection of maps. I
                particularly like the language map.</p>
              <p>It also has a great story behind it. To date, we
                haven't linked to the story behind the osgeolive
                basemap, but maybe it is time to start doing so.<br>
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              <p>The one glitch is the copyright - in that we will be
                wanting to have the map available under an Open license.
                Maelle, I think it is a good idea to reach out to
                Nikolaj Cyon to sound out if she would like her image to
                be available on an Open Source distribution of software
                - noting that we would be wanting it to be available
                under an open license. (She might be interested in
                sharing a cut down version of the image in an Open
                format).</p>
              <p>Cheers, Cameron<br>
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                  <div class="m_-2494783193622659995moz-cite-prefix">On
                    30/07/2018 1:01 AM, Maelle Vercauteren wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr"> <span></span>Hello,<br>
                      <br>
                      I take this occasion to share this map of Africa
                      that I like. It was Africa if colonialism had not
                      occurred as imagined by Nikolaj Cyon :<br>
                      <br>
                      <a href="https://www.cyon.se/#/alkebulan-1260-ah/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.cyon.se/#/<wbr>alkebulan-1260-ah/</a><br>
                      <br>
                      If the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam
                      LOC likes it too, we could try to contact the
                      artist and see if we can use it...<br>
                      <br>
                      Kind Regards,<br>
                      Maë//e</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">2018-07-29 0:17 GMT+02:00
                        Ben Caradoc-Davies <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            href="mailto:ben@transient.nz"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ben@transient.nz</a>></span>:<br>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0
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                          solid;padding-left:1ex">Or an historical
                          noncolonial or postcolonial map of Tanzania or
                          Dar es Salaam? Or is this even a concern? I
                          would like advice from the LOC. It would be
                          great to give Dar es Salaam the same
                          prominence (OSGeoLive background) as previous
                          FOSS4G hosts.<br>
                          <br>
                          The Africa list rejects email from
                          nonsubscribers such as myself.  :-(<br>
                          <br>
                          Kind regards,<br>
                          Ben.
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                              On 29/07/18 04:15, Astrid Emde (OSGeo)
                              wrote:<br>
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                                Hello all,<br>
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                                Ben you are with your comment.<br>
                                <br>
                                What do you think instead about an
                                actual OSM Map from Dar Es Salaam - that
                                shows how great the region is mapped<br>
                                <a
                                  href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472"
                                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/<wbr>#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472</a><br>
                                <br>
                                or maybe a nice photo instead of a map.<br>
                                <br>
                                Astrid<br>
                                <br>
                                Am 28.07.2018 00:17 schrieb Ben
                                Caradoc-Davies:<br>
                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                  style="margin:0 0 0
                                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                  solid;padding-left:1ex"> I love
                                  historical maps. However, maps have
                                  been both the tool and<br>
                                  emblem of colonisation, by which
                                  Africa has been particularly badly<br>
                                  affected. The choice of an historical
                                  map of Africa for the OSGeoLive<br>
                                  background must be informed by the
                                  actions of those who used it and<br>
                                  their impact on the people of Africa,
                                  as well consider of the<br>
                                  current-day appropriateness of the
                                  labels used on the map. I would<br>
                                  follow the advice of the Africa Local
                                  Chapter and the Dar es Salaam<br>
                                  LOC.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Kind regards,<br>
                                  Ben.<br>
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                                  On 28/07/18 09:23, Mark Iliffe wrote:<br>
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                                    style="margin:0 0 0
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                                    solid;padding-left:1ex"> I would
                                    vote for the map that you'd listed,
                                    but linking in the Africa Local<br>
                                    Chapter :-)<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Cheers,<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Mark<br>
                                    <br>
                                    On 27 July 2018 at 08:32, Cameron
                                    Shorter <<a
                                      href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
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                                      style="margin:0 0 0
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                                      solid;padding-left:1ex"> The time
                                      has come to select a background
                                      image for our next OSGeoLive<br>
                                      release, which is scheduled to be
                                      ready in time for FOSS4G Dar es
                                      Salaam,<br>
                                      and we are looking for inspiration
                                      for a background image.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Traditionally, we have drawn
                                      inspiration from the image from
                                      the<br>
                                      conference location, and are
                                      hoping that someone with a mapping
                                      or artistic<br>
                                      eye can suggest an interesting
                                      map, or image that we can use. The
                                      image<br>
                                      needs to be available under an
                                      open license, and will likely need
                                      to be<br>
                                      shaded so that icons will still
                                      stand out against it.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      I'm wondering whether a historic
                                      navigating chart of Africa would
                                      be good?<br>
                                      Maybe something like this:<br>
                                      <br>
                                      <a
href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AMH-7121-KB_Map_of_Africa.jpg"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://commons.wikimedia.org/<wbr>wiki/File:AMH-7121-KB_Map_of_A<wbr>frica.jpg</a><br>
                                      <br>
                                      Or maybe a drawing of some of the
                                      big African animals.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Are there any people in the
                                      mapping or African communities who
                                      would be<br>
                                      willing to help us out here?<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Warm regards,<br>
                                      <br>
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                                      Cameron Shorter<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Maëlle VERCAUTEREN DRUBBEL<br>
                            Coordinatrice du stage SIG Libres ARES<br>
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                            Université Libre de Bruxelles - 
IGEAT (CP
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                            Campus du Solbosch<br>
                            Av. F. D. Roosevelt, 50<br>
                            B-1050 Bruxelles<br>
                            Tél.: 02/650.68.14 Fax: 02/650.50.92 Local:
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Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant

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            <div dir="ltr">Maëlle VERCAUTEREN DRUBBEL<br>
              Coordinatrice du stage SIG Libres ARES<br>
              <br>
              Université Libre de Bruxelles - 
IGEAT (CP 130 / 03)
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              Campus du Solbosch<br>
              Av. F. D. Roosevelt, 50<br>
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Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant

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