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    <p>Hi Maria,</p>
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    <p>> People with more than 40 years can apply. <br>
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    <p>Yes but they suffer a 20% penalty, that's a very significant
      penalty and is explicitly discriminatory against what is commonly
      considered a "protected attribute" (age), hence my raising the
      issue.<br>
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    <p>> Moeover the scores will be compensated by their experience,</p>
    <p>The problem with this is that you are assuming that people
      >=40 have experience with both writing proposals and giving
      training. Statistically they're more likely to have such
      experience but it's by no means guaranteed, it depends entirely on
      their career path.<br>
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    <p>If you want experienced writers then evaluate for experienced
      writers. If you want inexperienced writers so you can teach them
      (which isn't the explicit goal of the Challenge as far as I can
      see, though it could be implied by the existence of mentors), then
      evaluate and pick inexperienced. Age should not be a factor, only
      experience.<br>
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    <p>Cheers,</p>
    <p>Jonathan<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-05-19 20:03, Maria Antonia
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      <div>Thanks for your comment.  I have a different opinion. </div>
      <div>People with more than 40 years can apply. </div>
      <div>Moeover the scores will be compensated by their experience,
        as there are also scores for this:</div>
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          <li style="box-sizing:border-box">Proposer’s documented
            experience in education and training: 20 (max)</li>
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        <div>And I believe that, for a person with experience, it is
          easier to write a better proposal (40 scores).</div>
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        <div>In my opinion, on the opposite, our choice goes into the
          direction of being  inclusive with young people. </div>
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        <div>Anyhow there is a Code of Conduct Committee. If they
          decided that the criteria as a whole are against inclusion, we
          would change as they propose.</div>
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        <div>Best regards</div>
        <div>Maria </div>
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        <div dir="auto" style="font-size:88%; color:#364f67">Inviato dal
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      Da: Jonathan Moules <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jonathan-lists@lightpear.com"><jonathan-lists@lightpear.com></a> <br>
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      A: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a> <br>
      Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 2019 OSGeo UN Committee Educational
      Challenge <br>
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        <p>I've just taken a look at this and noticed this line as one
          of the evaluation criteria:</p>
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        <p>> Proposer’s age (20 if <= 40 years old; 0 if >40
          years old): 20 (max)</p>
        <p>When did explicit age discrimination (i.e. ageism) become
          acceptable?</p>
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        <p>It seems to run counter to the OSGeo Goal of:<br>
          "be a welcoming and inclusive worldwide organization at all
          levels;"</p>
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        <p>Not to mention the Code of Conduct:</p>
        <p>"OSGeo welcomes and encourages participation by everyone" -
          as long as you're young?</p>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-05-18 17:33, Maria Antonia
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              two challenges:</span></div>
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              2: Open geospatial data and software for UN SDG 16, Peace
              justice and strong institutions</span><br>
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              for each challenge is sponsored by OSGeo.</span><br>
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