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</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;">(third edition) was produced by the hardwork and efforts of many colleagues and organisations over a</span><span class="Apple-converted-space" style="font-size: 11pt;">
</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;">year. There was an open call inviting all interested to contribute on all areas of future developments , so</span><span class="Apple-converted-space" style="font-size: 11pt;">
</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;">it would have been great if you could contribute your expertise in data cubes for this. The call inviting contributions was open to all and was shared in UN-GGIM website,</span><span class="Apple-converted-space" style="font-size: 11pt;">
</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;">all key GIS/EO networks and mail lists.</span><span class="Apple-converted-space" style="font-size: 11pt;">
</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I request you to please consider sharing your expertise for this topic for the next edition.</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px 'Helvetica Neue'"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I think there is always room for improvement for any work, so I hope UNGGIM in their next edition will be able to improve based on the feedbacks and include
more ideas/inputs. I think it is important to thank and acknowledge the good work done by all colleagues in UN GGIM and all colleagues and organisations who responded to the open call and contributed thier</span><span class="Apple-converted-space" style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt;">time
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<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">thanks for sharing this, Suchith!<br>
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While the report overall makes a very good impression it violates the principles of both open + science in at least one place, the one I checked: datacubes, for my personal curiosity. What I find is that only one tool, ODC, gets described, leaving the impression
to the innocent reader that this is the only technology relevant/existing.<br>
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- Science: </font><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Science is all about reproducibility.
</font>A scientific report would reflect on the state of the art; for example, in the RDA report [1] 19 tools have been investigated, and meantime for sure there are more. Further, objective criteria would get established along which the tools would get assessed.
Science requires (i) listing tools and (ii) assessing them for adequate criteria, such as power, performance, standards adherence, etc. Hard work? Yes, of course, who said science is one lazy afternoon's work? The RDA report took over 1.5 years to compile,
devise and run benchmarks, etc. <br>
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- Open: would require that the collection process is documented, the community at large can contribute before publishing. I could not find any earlier invitation to contribute on the topics of datacubes. Bottom line, the procedure is all but open and transparent.<br>
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Bottom line, this report is in contrast to openness, transparency, and good science, it rather represents subliminal advertisement for a single tool lobbied.
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sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">That the name of the UN is (mis)used here makes it even more problematic.<br>
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</font>Not a shining example for the principles this community is striving for.<br>
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[1] <a class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://rd-alliance.org/system/files/Array-Databases_final-report.pdf">
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<span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:11pt; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; color:rgb(0,0,0)">The United Nations initiative on Global Geospatial Information Management (UN-GGIM) aims at playing a leading role in setting
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">'The Future Trends in geospatial information management: the five to ten year vision – Third Edition, August 2020’</span><span style="font-style:normal"><span class="x_x_x_Apple-converted-space" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
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