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    <p>Hi Jody,</p>
    <p>thanks for the update.</p>
    <p>The clarification of point 3 is still fuzzy to me. What do they
      actually mean by "monetised by manufacturers". Is monetizing only
      when the software is open source but people have to pay to use it
      on SaaS or similar models ? Otherwise if it is about money being
      involved in the making of the open source software, then that
      contradicts the second point that how the development was financed
      shouldn't be taken into account to determine commercial
      activity... Is consulting about open source software "monetizing"
      it ... ?</p>
    <p>Even<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 06/12/2023 à 16:09, Jody Garnett via
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        <div dir="auto">Follow up to November discussion and <a
href="https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/eu-cyber-resilience-act/"
            moz-do-not-send="true">blog post</a> asking OSGeo community
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            <li>At the end November Europe lawmakers agreed on
              something: <a
href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/11/30/cyber-resilience-act-council-and-parliament-strike-a-deal-on-security-requirements-for-digital-products/"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/11/30/cyber-resilience-act-council-and-parliament-strike-a-deal-on-security-requirements-for-digital-products/</a> <br>
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              Free and open source was so far down the priority list
              that the press release does not even mention it.</li>
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            <li>Next there were assurances that free and open-source
              community concerns were addressed: <a
href="https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20231106IPR09007/cyber-resilience-act-agreement-with-council-to-boost-digital-products-security"
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              The quote did indicate how our concerns were addressed:<br>
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              > We have ensured support for micro and small
              enterprises and better involvement of stakeholders, and
              addressed the concerns of the open-source community, while
              keeping an ambitious European dimension.</li>
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            <li>This week I can find a articles providing clarifications
              that have been added: <a
href="https://openforumeurope.org/eu-cyber-resilience-act-takes-a-leap-forward/"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://openforumeurope.org/eu-cyber-resilience-act-takes-a-leap-forward/</a> <br>
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              Two clarifications:<br>
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              > the provision of free and open-source software
              products with digital elements that are not monetised by
              their manufacturers is not considered a commercial
              activity<br>
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              > The mere circumstances under which the product has
              been developed, or how the development has been financed
              should therefore not be taken into account when
              determining the commercial or non-commercial nature of
              [making free and open-source software available on the
              market].</li>
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        <div dir="auto">Jody</div>
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