<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all</div><br>I am sending you a link about how discourse treats the users<br><a href="https://blog.discourse.org/2018/06/understanding-discourse-trust-levels/">https://blog.discourse.org/2018/06/understanding-discourse-trust-levels/</a></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:00 AM Eli Adam <<a href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us">eadam@co.lincoln.or.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-8664125327796093432">
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I'm also unclear on what is going on. It looks like discourse options are being added. This raises questions about mailing lists. 1. Are mailing lists going away? </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No, they are not going away<br></div><div>We are just giving options, different communities have different needs</div><div>Different people have different ways of working together<br>This<br>[1] <a href="https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/pgrouting/pgrouting-dev/17">https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/pgrouting/pgrouting-dev/17</a></div><div> is a mirror of</div><div>[2] <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/pgrouting-dev/">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/pgrouting-dev/</a><br></div><div>As you can see on [2] you can not reply you can only browse the mail archives.</div><div>On [1] happens the same.</div><div>The only way to have a reply is by sending a mail to the corresponding mailing list</div><div><br></div><div>here:<br>[3] <a href="https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5">https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5</a></div><div>the QGIS french group of users decided that discourse was better for them and they will not use the mailing list anymore</div><div>So the mailing list was moved and we are giving a month's time for people to go to discourse.</div><div>Anything arriving to the mailing list at this moment of time is not going to be published in discourse. Because it is not a mirror, on it people can reply using discourse or sending a mail to qgis-fr-users at <a href="http://discourse.osgeo.org">discourse.osgeo.org</a></div><div>but the mailing list archives will be kept<br></div><div><br></div><div>Of course, for obvious reasons, I can not git you a link to a private mailing lists</div><div>They want to remain private and want to remain on the mailing list.</div><div>But another example, pgRouting did not have a public/private mailing list for its PSC, and we opted to have a private category within discourse.<br></div><div>Already there but you can not see it, you are not part of the group that can see that category.</div><div><br></div><div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-8664125327796093432"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">2. Can projects choose to keep just the mailing list and not add dicourse?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes!</div><div>Also they can have a category on discourse without a mailing list, but with a discourse mail</div><div>Like this one:<br><a href="https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/about-the-sac-website-category/301">https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/about-the-sac-website-category/301</a></div><div>(read about the trust levels)</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Vicky<br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-8664125327796093432"><div dir="ltr">
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Thanks, Eli</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 26, 2023 9:52 PM<br>
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<div dir="auto">Is there any more information on what is being offered here?</div>
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<div dir="auto">I have not used discourse very much. What do you mean by having a category Can you be more clear about migrate and mirror.<br>
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<div>Category, is like the one you created about the discourse site feedback.</div>
<div>Mirror, is a category that mirrors the mailing list, so the mails received on the mailing list are also shown on discourse.<br>
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<div>If you "reply" to those mails using discourse, they will not be shown on the mailing list, as the mirror does not send mails to the mailing list.<br>
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<div>The reply that will be shown is the one done using mail.<br>
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<div>When migrating subscribers are also migrated and are "staged users", and they can log in using ldap, or github account.</div>
<div>If the mail of their log in matches, the staged users get assigned to the person that logged in.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 1:07 PM Vicky Vergara via Discuss <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>We are ready to migrate mailing lists to discourse,<br>
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<div>* Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse</div>
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<div>* Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list<br>
* Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list<br>
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<div>A comprehensive list of mailing lists can be found here (not including private mailing lists):<br>
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<div>You need to open a ticket to have the work done.<br>
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<div>Follow the ticket examples below for the first 3 cases<br>
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<div>Example: Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse:<br>
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Ticket: <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3064" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3064</a> (has link to ticket 3063)<br>
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Created the following discourse category<br>
<a href="https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5" target="_blank">https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5</a><br>
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<div>And the archives of the mailing list will not be removed:<br>
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<div>Migration has finished so any new message to the list will not be received on discourse, but the list will be disabled for before the end of january.<br>
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<div>Mail on discourse: qgis-fr-user/@<a href="http://discourse.osgeo.org" target="_blank">discourse.osgeo.org</a>
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<div>Example: Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse<br>
Ticket: <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3062" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3062</a></div>
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<div>Created the following discourse category<br>
<a href="https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13" target="_blank">https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13</a><br>
The mailing list will not be removed, and it is a mirror to the mailing list</div>
<div>emails continue to be sent to <a href="mailto:sac@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">
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<div>Replies can be done<br>
<a href="https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/re-osgeo-3062-import-sac-mailing-list-to-discourse/4747/2?u=cvvergara" target="_blank">https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/re-osgeo-3062-import-sac-mailing-list-to-discourse/4747/2?u=cvvergara</a><br>
But they will no be reflected on the mailing list<br>
<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2023-December/thread.html" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2023-December/thread.html</a><br>
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<div>Example: of category without mailing list<br>
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<div>Ticket: <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3066" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3066</a></div>
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