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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>If a large fraction of the people who don't directly contribute
to the vital working (supply chain of water and food + health
care) of this broken system would stop working, that would have
visible consequences. I'm missing so much the COVID times where
nights were finally fully silent, with all airplanes down. And you
could look at the sky at night without all those gaziliions
satellites polluting what mankind had always admired since its
inception.</p>
<p>Except that us in open source is that we would have to strike for
years before our lack of labor become visible. We must be aware
that we are the perfect slaves of this rotten system. Giving away
our production, and for a surprising proportion of us, welcoming
LLMs that have robbed our production and are now charging us for
using it...</p>
<p>In the mean time my little personal strike means a bit less use
of continuous integration VMs, so that's my modest contribution to
reducing carbon emissions.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Even</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 29/09/2026 à 21:12, Luí s Moreira de
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are going down a deeply philosophical path. However, let me
offer a further thought: it is not with a strike that a
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<div class="protonmail_quote"> On Tuesday, 29 September 2026
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<p>ok, I'll have to go to the end of my thoughts.
Basically I want to strike against this poisonous
capitalist system that leads us to our end. Working
while doing futile things (=writing software) doesn't
make any sense until we have overthrown that system.</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 29/09/2026 à 16:20,
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<p><span>Hello. Generally speaking—at least within
the realm of labor unions—a strike is
undertaken as a measure of last resort to
achieve a specific goal. It is a drastic and
extreme step because it is designed to cause
disruption to the other party (typically the
employer, in the case of unionized workers).
With the proposed strike, who would be
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<b>Enviado:</b> martes, 29 de setiembre de 2026
7:58:10<br>
<b>Para:</b> Luí s Moreira de Sousa; Even
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Hi Luis,<br>
<br>
Not answering on a general level nor on the
strike itself, but concerning funding I think
there is a misunderstanding here in terms of
orders of magnitudes.<br>
<br>
Great news that the EU allocates funding to OSS
software in geospatial, BUT :<br>
<br>
- It gets down to 3m€ cascaded to projects in
the end, cut into ~50K€ grants ( ~0.5 FTE per
project )<br>
<br>
- 3m€ is literally peanuts compared to the
global funding of opensource geospatial software
and to what would be required to address real
funding issues (<br>
<br>
- 3m€ is literally nothing in the EU budget,
including if you compare to other funded IT
domain ( e.g. just on a French scale, tax
reductions for research & development amount
to _8 billions_ yearly )<br>
<br>
I do not say it is not a good news, and I really
enjoy seeing our topics being at least
recognized, and especially allocated to OSGeo /
NLNet, because these funding programs are good,
well managed, and can help improve projects.<br>
<br>
But let's be realistic, having 3m€ on the table
will not solve any of the foundamental funding
issue for opensource and for opensource
geospatial, to say the least.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Vincent<br>
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On 29/09/2026 12:30, Luí s Moreira de Sousa via
Discuss wrote:<br>
> Hi Even,<br>
><br>
> I am still missing a clear identification
of the target(s) of this strike. A strike
against an unclear opponent (or against
everyone) is bound to be ineffective.<br>
><br>
> The European Commission just allocated 6 M€
to open source software in GeoInformatics. The
OSGeo Foundation is part of the consortium
managing and assigning those funds. In that
scope a strike regarding lack of funding seems
inopurtune.<br>
><br>
> Regards.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Luís Moreira de Sousa<br>
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> On Monday, 28 September 2026 at 14:46, Even
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>> Hi,<br>
>><br>
>> I've had recently a discussion with one
of ours that suggested that my<br>
>> proposal should be refined,
particularly in terms of dates and claims,<br>
>> which I agree. I'd wish not to be the
lead on this, but oh well since<br>
>> this is already my 12th day of strike,
I guess I can spend some time<br>
>> helping coordinating.<br>
>><br>
>> Several points:<br>
>><br>
>> - how long people are ready to strike ?
(I'm well aware people have<br>
>> bills to pay.) One week, two weeks, one
month ?<br>
>><br>
>> - one way also to extend the length of
the strike could be to organize<br>
>> it in a rolling way, e.g. it could be 4
weeks, with only 25% of people<br>
>> being on strike simultaneously<br>
>><br>
>> - how do we communicate around that ?
I'd be great if OSGeo as an<br>
>> organization would be willing to make
an official press release, since<br>
>> strikes are only efficient if they are
made felt and visible.<br>
>><br>
>> - which claims do we want to bring
forwards ? So far what I've heard:<br>
>> * lack of funding for maintenance in
open source software<br>
>> * complaint against economical and
political forces in<br>
>> responsibility for not making the
decisive steps to stop the root causes<br>
>> of global warming and mitigate the
unavoidable consequences<br>
>> * complaint against lack of involvement
of citizens on the<br>
>> appropriateness, scope and limits of
the use of AI technologies<br>
>><br>
>> We can organize a poll once people have
expressed a bit their minds.<br>
>><br>
>> Even<br>
>><br>
>> Le 11/09/2026 à 18:31, Even Rouault via
Discuss a écrit :<br>
>>> Hi Luis,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I was genuinely interested in what
people could have in mind with such<br>
>>> a call. I realize that my motion
(obviously second degree in its form)<br>
>>> was way too much restricted with
the developer and not inclusive enough.<br>
>>><br>
>>> So let me write down a sketch what
I had in mind. Well something along<br>
>>> those lines... I'm a poor
communicator and activist<br>
>>><br>
>>> """Here we undersigned X, Y, Z, etc
members of the OSGeo community<br>
>>> make the following statements:<br>
>>><br>
>>> - we recognize that economical and
political forces in responsibility<br>
>>> in countries of our finite planet
are not making the decisive steps to<br>
>>> stop the root causes of global
warming and mitigate the unavoidable<br>
>>> consequences<br>
>>><br>
>>> - we ask that citizens of countries
of our planet to have their say<br>
>>> through democratic expression on
the appropriateness, scope and limits<br>
>>> of the use of AI technologies<br>
>>><br>
>>> Both issues affect all inhabitants
of this planet, and ourselves in<br>
>>> particular.<br>
>>><br>
>>> To underline the seriousness of our
concerns, we have decided to stop<br>
>>> our activities for a period of one
month, formely a strike, and invite<br>
>>> any other person or group in other
communities to act similarly<br>
>>><br>
>>> """<br>
>>><br>
>>> So yes nothing directly about the
business of software or against<br>
>>> OSGeo... But in a world where your
life is endangered, creating or<br>
>>> using software is the least of your
concern. Recent experience showed<br>
>>> me that in a world were I would be
exposed regularly to temperature >=<br>
>>> 30 degrees, my productivity those
days would be zero as this summer<br>
>>> demonstrated. So after all, you
could tell that it's about OSGeo<br>
>>> making sure its members have access
to liveable conditions to<br>
>>> accomplish it mission (and I
consider that buying a fan or air<br>
>>> conditionning is just a band-aid,
not a serious response to the<br>
>>> issue). The part about AI could
enter in the mental health of its<br>
>>> members. AI is an addictive drug, a
true one.<br>
>>><br>
>>> To be fully transparent, my main
needs in life are breathing, drinking<br>
>>> water, eating, health care,
dressing, housing. Being able to write<br>
>>> open source software would probably
be ranked below 50th position.<br>
>>> This is kind of a futile hobby,
right? Yes I know I'm kind of<br>
>>> provocative, but in the world we're
heading too, not sure that<br>
>>> computers will matter that much.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Even<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Le 11/09/2026 à 18:00, Luí s
Moreira de Sousa a écrit :<br>
>>>> Hi Even,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> strikes, and general strikes,
were some of the first tools (many<br>
>>>> times effective) in what became
knownw as the Class Struggle. A<br>
>>>> strike is an action taken by a
percieved weak faction (union, workers<br>
>>>> association) facing a strong
faction (employer, owner of means of<br>
>>>> production).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Before devising motives, it
would be important to identify against<br>
>>>> which faction the community
would be striking. We contribute to<br>
>>>> projects and the Foundation
itself, none of which fit the traditional<br>
>>>> understanding of owners of
means of production.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Regards.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Luís Moreira de Sousa<br>
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>> My software is free, but my time
generally not.<br>
>> LLMs contribute to global warming and
brain rot.<br>
>> Let's guillotine them! "Ah ! ça ira, ça
ira, ça ira !"<br>
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LLMs contribute to global warming and brain rot.
Let's guillotine them! "Ah ! ça ira, ça ira, ça ira !"</pre>
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My software is free, but my time generally not.
LLMs contribute to global warming and brain rot.
Let's guillotine them! "Ah ! ça ira, ça ira, ça ira !"</pre>
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