Obviously, assuming I can swing the whole time off situation or get it approved as my work related travel, I'd enjoy these kinds of hard hitting topics. While I certainly believe the other developers can use this sort of briefing, this third track content was very limited in its draw last conference. Previously we had a track for application users, (big audience), for novice consumer-developers (big audience), and for framework developers...which turned out to be just me sitting in a room talking to like one other person, who was arguably lost. I'm concerned that if Michael gets deep enough to where the topics are really beneficial for someone like me or other very experienced developers, they will be too deep to drum up attendance from anyone else. If he can tailor it for the consumer-developer level it would probably be well attended.<br>
<br>We could certainly use a short steering committee meeting for issues that cover future direction ideas, but it needs to be short because the members of the steering committee tend to also be the presenters of content. If you hole them up in a room together, then the mob of raging fans has nothing to do for that time. So that either needs to happen as part of the super collective, and treat the other attenders as audience members for a quick future-directions discussion, allowing them to contribute ideas while everyone is together, or it needs to happen as a meeting outside of the time span of the main conference. During the main conference hours, we should cater to the needs of the general public more than to our own needs, which can be handled by e-mail or conference calls or whatever.<br>
<br>It would be worth hosting at least one DotSpatial framework design strategy session. We now have considerably more members that are outside of the Dan Ames lab that are actually contributing to framework design into the future, as long as we can tear them away from getting distracted by parallel sessions. If we had such a thing, one idea would be to have each presenter bring a 5 minute conversation starter prepared on their favorite topics to bring the group up to speed. The session could run more like a brain-storming session, and less like a power-point presentation series, and it should at most be a one hour session, since, once again the attendees are probably critical presenters for other areas. This might be better organized as a "birds of a feather" style meeting over food or something, and don't worry about having power points at all.<br>
<br>Anyway, those are just some ideas that are in my head right now.<br><br>Ted<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Michael P. Gerlek <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mpg@lizardtech.com">mpg@lizardtech.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I’m interested in doing a workshop that would be a deep-dive into an advanced C#/.NET topic, using geo or the DotSpatial code itself as my working examples.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Some of the possible topics I could do include:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> - a critical look at the framework design guidelines: StyleCop, FxCop, and friends, plus “How (and Why) to Implement Dispose” :-)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> - a tour of the support for parallelism in .NET 4</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> - a nature walk through the various collections classes, including the obscure ones you thought you didn’t need to know about</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> - WPF for geo folks: drawing vectors, drawing rasters manually and efficiently, …</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> - Windows Phone 7 for geo folks: showing bing maps and OSM maps, using the gps, geo routing services, …</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> - what’s in an assembly, including signing and versions, and how to generate your own IL on the fly for really fast reprojections</span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Would any of these ideas be considered in scope? Would any of you be willing to attend one of these? (and if so, which one?)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">-mpg</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p><div style="border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color blue; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;">
<div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a href="mailto:dotspatial-sc@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">dotspatial-sc@googlegroups.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dotspatial-sc@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">dotspatial-sc@googlegroups.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Ames<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 25, 2010 11:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:dotspatial-dev@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">dotspatial-dev@googlegroups.com</a>; <a href="mailto:dotspatial-sc@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">dotspatial-sc@googlegroups.com</a>; <a href="mailto:dotnet@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">dotnet@lists.osgeo.org</a>; mapwindowteam<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Regarding MapWindow/OSGeo DotNet 2011</span></p></div></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi all, </p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">We've finally been able to lock in a hotel and a meeting date for a MapWindow/OSGeo DotNet 2011 Conference in San Diego. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal">All the relevant information is posted here: <a href="http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2011" target="_blank">http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2011</a>. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">It turned out that a major leukemia meeting had booked most of the space in San Diego earlier in June, so I had to move our meeting back by one week to June 13-15, 2011. </p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I hope that many/all of you will be able to come to San Diego next summer and join us for this in-person get together of the MapWindow and OSGeo DotNet developer and user community.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I'll be sending out a formal "call for abstracts" for workshops, papers and posters later this week. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Note that we are doing workshops differently this year - instead of me proposing workshops and finding presenters, I am hoping that many (at least 12) of you will propose workshops that you can deliver. Of course workshop presenters will get a free conference registration...</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks in advance for taking a look at the conference web site.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- Dan</p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">(P.S., I'll be looking for volunteers to help with sorting through abstracts and making the conference program in January...)</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE<br>Associate Professor, Geosciences<br>Idaho State University - Idaho Falls<br>
<a href="mailto:amesdani@isu.edu" target="_blank">amesdani@isu.edu</a><br><a href="http://geology.isu.edu" target="_blank">geology.isu.edu</a><br><a href="http://www.mapwindow.org" target="_blank">www.mapwindow.org</a><br>
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