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Interessante discussie, had op de originele 'request for comments'
commentaar gestuurd maar de reactie van de working group is niet
publiek en heb zelf ook niks gekregen. Lekker handig is dat.
Alhoewel ik hoor dat ze alles afdoen vanwege backwards
compatibility met ArcGIS natuurlijk.<br>
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De genoemde 'alleged' motieven van ESRI in die conversatie,
makkelijk een stempel 'OGC approved' te krijgen zonder proper WxS
te ondersteunen via dit proces zijn overduidelijk.<br>
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mvg<br>
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Matthijs<br>
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On 2013-05-07 09:41, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:<br>
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<div>Op OSGeo Discuss is een intensieve discussie gaande over een
mogelijk nieuwe OGC specificatie genaamd GeoServices REST API. </div>
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<div>Lees hieronder, lees de hele conversatie op <a
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<div>De discussie is belangrijk omdat de geloofwaardigheid van
OGC als standaarden organisatie op het spel staat. Dus schroom
niet en laat je horen.</div>
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Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API"
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<div>OSGeo Community,<br>
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Currently, voting OGC members are to decide whether to
accept the "GeoServices REST API" as an OGC standard. This
is already a contentious issue, with 13 votes for, and 10
votes against, 72 outstanding votes, with voting halted
temporally, being reopened again in a few days, and
closing 2 weeks after that. [1]<br>
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I'm wanting to hear whether people in the OSGeo community
have strong opinions regarding this proposed standard, and
whether we as a collective OSGeo community should make
statements to the OGC, and voting OGC members, stressing
our thoughts.<br>
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If there is sufficient interest, I'll raise this issue
with the OSGeo Board, with the intent of drafting a
statement on behalf of OSGeo.<br>
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As background:<br>
* "The API was initially developed by Esri and implemented
on the ArcGIS for Server platform." [2]<br>
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* The proposed GeoServices REST API specification overlaps
with most OGC standards already deployed, including: WMS,
WMTS, WCS, WFS, SE/SLD, CS/W. This effectively means that
for most use cases covered by the GeoServices REST API,
applications would now have two standards to support.
Also, spatial infrastructure programs will be impacted, as
OGC compliance won't necessarily equate to
interoperability.<br>
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* Most (all?) current OGC web service standards to date
have an Open Source reference implementation, which was
often (always?) part funded by OGC testbeds, and open
source implementations were tested against proprietary
implementations during OGC testbeds. As far as I'm aware,
there has been very little up-take from the Open Source
community of the "GeoServices REST API", and I'm unaware
of any testing of non-ESRI applications during OGC
testbeds. (Someone may be able to correct me here).<br>
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[1]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://portal.opengeospatial.org/?m=projects&a=view&project_id=82&tab=5&subtab=0">https://portal.opengeospatial.org/?m=projects&a=view&project_id=82&tab=5&subtab=0</a><br>
(OGC member login required. Votes counted as at 4 May
2013)<br>
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[2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/requests/89">http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/requests/89</a><br>
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