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      Interessante discussie, had op de originele 'request for comments'
      commentaar gestuurd maar de reactie van de working group is niet
      publiek en heb zelf ook niks gekregen. Lekker handig is dat.
      Alhoewel ik hoor dat ze alles afdoen vanwege backwards
      compatibility met ArcGIS natuurlijk.<br>
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      De genoemde 'alleged' motieven van ESRI in die conversatie,
      makkelijk een stempel 'OGC approved' te krijgen zonder proper WxS
      te ondersteunen via dit proces zijn overduidelijk.<br>
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      mvg<br>
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      Matthijs<br>
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      On 2013-05-07 09:41, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:<br>
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      <div>Op OSGeo Discuss is een intensieve discussie gaande over een
        mogelijk nieuwe OGC specificatie genaamd GeoServices REST API. </div>
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      <div>Lees hieronder, lees de hele conversatie op <a
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        <div>De discussie is belangrijk omdat de geloofwaardigheid van
          OGC als standaarden organisatie op het spel staat. Dus schroom
          niet en laat je horen.</div>
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        <div>Groet,</div>
        <div>Jeroen</div>
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            <div><span style="font-size: medium; ">Jeroen Ticheler</span></div>
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          <div>Begin forwarded message:</div>
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                color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span
                style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Cameron
                Shorter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"><cameron.shorter@gmail.com></a><br>
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                color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span
                style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>[Board]
                  Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API"
                  became an OGC standard?</b><br>
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                color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span
                style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">4 mei
                2013 12:46:33 CEST<br>
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                Discussions <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org"><discuss@lists.osgeo.org></a><br>
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                color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Cc: </b></span><span
                style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:standards@lists.osgeo.org">standards@lists.osgeo.org</a>,
                OSGeo-Board <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org"><board@lists.osgeo.org></a><br>
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            <div>OSGeo Community,<br>
              <br>
              Currently, voting OGC members are to decide whether to
              accept the "GeoServices REST API" as an OGC standard. This
              is already a contentious issue, with 13 votes for, and 10
              votes against, 72 outstanding votes, with voting halted
              temporally, being reopened again in a few days, and
              closing 2 weeks after that. [1]<br>
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              I'm wanting to hear whether people in the OSGeo community
              have strong opinions regarding this proposed standard, and
              whether we as a collective OSGeo community should make
              statements to the OGC, and voting OGC members, stressing
              our thoughts.<br>
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              If there is sufficient interest, I'll raise this issue
              with the OSGeo Board, with the intent of drafting a
              statement on behalf of OSGeo.<br>
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              As background:<br>
              * "The API was initially developed by Esri and implemented
              on the ArcGIS for Server platform." [2]<br>
              <br>
              * The proposed GeoServices REST API specification overlaps
              with most OGC standards already deployed, including: WMS,
              WMTS, WCS, WFS, SE/SLD, CS/W. This effectively means that
              for most use cases covered by the GeoServices REST API,
              applications would now have two standards to support.
              Also, spatial infrastructure programs will be impacted, as
              OGC compliance won't necessarily equate to
              interoperability.<br>
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              * Most (all?) current OGC web service standards to date
              have an Open Source reference implementation, which was
              often (always?) part funded by OGC testbeds, and open
              source implementations were tested against proprietary
              implementations during OGC testbeds. As far as I'm aware,
              there has been very little up-take from the Open Source
              community of the "GeoServices REST API", and I'm unaware
              of any testing of non-ESRI applications during OGC
              testbeds. (Someone may be able to correct me here).<br>
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              [1]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://portal.opengeospatial.org/?m=projects&a=view&project_id=82&tab=5&subtab=0">https://portal.opengeospatial.org/?m=projects&a=view&project_id=82&tab=5&subtab=0</a><br>
              (OGC member login required. Votes counted as at 4 May
              2013)<br>
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              [2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/requests/89">http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/requests/89</a><br>
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              -- <br>
              Cameron Shorter<br>
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