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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=NL link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Goede discussie inderdaad.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Voor de Nederlandstaligen heb ik er op <a href="http://www.gisnederland.nl">www.gisnederland.nl</a> een blog aan gewijd<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Met een schuin oog op de agenda zie ik van 13-16 mei (dus volgende week) het GeoSpatial World Forum 2013, waar wij (hulde aan Paul v Genuchten!) als osgeo.nl de track open source verzorgen.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Is het nog zinvol (ja!) en haalbaar (Paul?) om daar aandacht te besteden aan deze discussie. Niet gehinderd door het feit dat “open source” en “open standaarden” twee verschillende dingen zijn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(ik zie verder in het programma ook een track over “standards & interoperability”, maar ik betijfel of dáár deze discussie op tafel komt).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ik zou van iedere spreker wel willen horen hoeveel (OGC-) standaarden ze willen ondersteunen: de WxS familie / KML / Esri Geoservices REST / Who’s next?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Groet, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Gert-Jan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> dutch-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:dutch-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>Namens </b>Jeroen Ticheler<br><b>Verzonden:</b> dinsdag 7 mei 2013 9:42<br><b>Aan:</b> dutch<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> [Dutch] Fwd: Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API" became an OGC standard?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Beste mensen,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Op OSGeo Discuss is een intensieve discussie gaande over een mogelijk nieuwe OGC specificatie genaamd GeoServices REST API. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Lees hieronder, lees de hele conversatie op <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2013-May/thread.html">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2013-May/thread.html</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>De discussie is belangrijk omdat de geloofwaardigheid van OGC als standaarden organisatie op het spel staat. Dus schroom niet en laat je horen.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Groet,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jeroen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>____________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#130B51'>Geo</span></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><b><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#00A7E3'>Cat</span></b></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#FE2617'> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#130B51'>introduces</span></b><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#FE2617'> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#00A7E3'>Bridge</span></b><span class=apple-style-span><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#00A7E3'>© </span></b></span><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#130B51'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#130B51'>An extension to ArcGIS</span></b><span class=apple-style-span><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#130B51'>©</span></b></span><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#130B51'> to instantly publish data and metadata on GeoServer and GeoNetwork.</span></b><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>See <a href="http://geocat.net/">http://geocat.net</a> for more details. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>Jeroen Ticheler</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>GeoCat bv<br>Veenderweg 13<br>6721 WD Bennekom<br>The Netherlands<br>Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572<br><a href="http://geocat.net">http://geocat.net</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Subject: [Board] Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API" became an OGC standard?</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Date: </span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>4 mei 2013 12:46:33 CEST</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>To: </span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>OSGeo Discussions <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Cc: </span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:standards@lists.osgeo.org">standards@lists.osgeo.org</a>, OSGeo-Board <<a href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org">board@lists.osgeo.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>OSGeo Community,<br><br>Currently, voting OGC members are to decide whether to accept the "GeoServices REST API" as an OGC standard. This is already a contentious issue, with 13 votes for, and 10 votes against, 72 outstanding votes, with voting halted temporally, being reopened again in a few days, and closing 2 weeks after that. [1]<br><br>I'm wanting to hear whether people in the OSGeo community have strong opinions regarding this proposed standard, and whether we as a collective OSGeo community should make statements to the OGC, and voting OGC members, stressing our thoughts.<br><br>If there is sufficient interest, I'll raise this issue with the OSGeo Board, with the intent of drafting a statement on behalf of OSGeo.<br><br>As background:<br>* "The API was initially developed by Esri and implemented on the ArcGIS for Server platform." [2]<br><br>* The proposed GeoServices REST API specification overlaps with most OGC standards already deployed, including: WMS, WMTS, WCS, WFS, SE/SLD, CS/W. This effectively means that for most use cases covered by the GeoServices REST API, applications would now have two standards to support. Also, spatial infrastructure programs will be impacted, as OGC compliance won't necessarily equate to interoperability.<br><br>* Most (all?) current OGC web service standards to date have an Open Source reference implementation, which was often (always?) part funded by OGC testbeds, and open source implementations were tested against proprietary implementations during OGC testbeds. As far as I'm aware, there has been very little up-take from the Open Source community of the "GeoServices REST API", and I'm unaware of any testing of non-ESRI applications during OGC testbeds. (Someone may be able to correct me here).<br><br>[1] <a href="https://portal.opengeospatial.org/?m=projects&a=view&project_id=82&tab=5&subtab=0">https://portal.opengeospatial.org/?m=projects&a=view&project_id=82&tab=5&subtab=0</a><br>(OGC member login required. Votes counted as at 4 May 2013)<br><br>[2] <a href="http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/requests/89">http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/requests/89</a><br><br>-- <br>Cameron Shorter<br>Geospatial Solutions Manager<br>Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050<br>Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254<br><br>Think Globally, Fix Locally<br>Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source<br><a href="http://www.lisasoft.com">http://www.lisasoft.com</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Board mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Board@lists.osgeo.org">Board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>