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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I’d rather have such index->index
lookup table inside one or two providers than make every application programmer
have to make such lookup table in client code, because it seems like instances
of such loops would be more common than providers that cannot implement such
table internally.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Traian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:fdo-internals-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Boone<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> FDO Internals Mail List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [fdo-internals] RE: MOTION: FDO RFC 34 - FDO Reader Access By
Index<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>See inline…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Traian Stanev<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> FDO Internals Mail List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [fdo-internals] RE: MOTION: FDO RFC 34 - FDO Reader Access By
Index<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>There is no technical reason
making this impossible, since this is new API and presumably all existing
providers that want to add support for this will have to comply with the RFC.
If the RFC says that the order has to match the one returned by
GetClassDefinition, then why would you expect future providers to not honor
that?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#1F497D'>[GB] I am sure that they
could do this, but I would not wish to force them to do so for existing
providers. Especially those providers outside the Open Source community.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>A common use case is that one
gets the class definition from the reader and then loops over its properties
using a for loop inside the reader’s ReadNext() loop. Such loop would be
a prime candidate for using the indexed Get calls. If the index of the
properties in the class definition does not match the index to use in Get by
index, then this common use case cannot effectively benefit from this RFC,
significantly reducing the value of the Get by index APIs. I guess a workaround
for this would be for the application programmer to create an index->index lookup
table in such cases before looping, but that sounds worksome to do too often,
which would be an obstacle to adoption of the indexed Get APIs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>[GB] I agree that in this
situation, a client index->index lookup will be required. Depending on the
number of different queries being executed this may be problematic. It may be
the case that it would have to be done for all queries.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Traian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:fdo-internals-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Boone<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> FDO Internals Mail List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [fdo-internals] RE: MOTION: FDO RFC 34 - FDO Reader Access By
Index<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I think we will still require
these methods since we can never guarantee that all existing and future
providers will behave in the expected manner in all select scenarios. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:fdo-internals-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Traian
Stanev<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> FDO Internals Mail List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [fdo-internals] RE: MOTION: FDO RFC 34 - FDO Reader Access By
Index<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>How hard would it be to fix the
providers internally so that the index of the properties in the collection returned
with GetClassDefinition corresponds to the index needed for getting the
property by index? I suspect it is not too hard since it would involve the same
amount of work as implementing this new GetPropertyIndex API, but will not add
new API that one has to call before getting the properties by index.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Traian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:fdo-internals-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Klain Qin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 14, 2009 11:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> FDO Internals Mail List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [fdo-internals] RE: MOTION: FDO RFC 34 - FDO Reader Access By
Index<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>While this RFC is being voted,
I’ve updated it again in order to use access by index API more
efficiently and correctly. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Previously in order to use
access by index functions for FdoIFeatureReader or FdoIDataReader, the API
users will have to know beforehand how index is mapping to property name. And
mapping is different for different provider implementations like SqlLite/SDF
and RDBMS. E.g. with the same FDO schema definition, SqlLite and RDBMS will
arrange the property order returned from GetClassDefinition() differently:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you don’t
set selected property names be returned from an FdoISelect command <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:#1F497D'>SqlLite provider will
arrange the properties in the order: Identity property -> Geometry property
-> the left will be arranged in the order of how they are added into the
class definition, like ID -> geometry -> datetime-> double <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:#1F497D'>For RDBMS provider the
order is: identity property -> the left is ordered by the first character of
the property name like ID -> datetime-> double -> geometry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you do set
selected property names to be returned from an FdoISelect command<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:#1F497D'>SqlLite provider will
respect the order of how they are added to selected properties. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:#1F497D'>SDF provider will respect
the order of corresponding properties defined in the original class
definition(without setting selected properties)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So to resolve this
inconvenience, RFC 34 is updated again to add another function for getting the
index of a specific property name. Now both of the property name and index
related functions are moved to FdoIReader as they are needed for both
FdoIFeatureReader and FdoIDataReader. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:28.5pt;
margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:28.5pt;background:#F7F7F7'><span lang=EN
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>FdoString*
GetPropertyName(FdoInt32 index);<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:28.5pt;
margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:28.5pt;background:#F7F7F7'><span lang=EN
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GetPropertyIndex(FdoString* propertyName);<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='color:#1F497D'>Can you take a look
again at this RFC?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://trac.osgeo.org/fdo/wiki/FDORfc34">http://trac.osgeo.org/fdo/wiki/FDORfc34</a></span><span
lang=EN style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Klain<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:fdo-internals-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Boone<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 14, 2009 11:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> FDO Internals Mail List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [fdo-internals] MOTION: FDO RFC 34 - FDO Reader Access By Index<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>There were no further comments
on RFC 34:</span> <span style='color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://trac.osgeo.org/fdo/wiki/FDORfc34">http://trac.osgeo.org/fdo/wiki/FDORfc34</a>
</span>-<span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>FDO Reader Access By Index</span><span
style='color:#1F497D'>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I would like to motion a vote to
accept this RFC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Greg.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:fdo-internals-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Boone<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> FDO Internals Mail List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [fdo-internals] RE: FDO RFC 34 - FDO Reader Access By Index<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>FDO RFC 34 – Access By
Index: </span><span style='color:#C0504D'><a
href="http://trac.osgeo.org/fdo/wiki/FDORfc34"><span style='color:#C0504D'>http://trac.osgeo.org/fdo/wiki/FDORfc34</span></a></span><span
style='color:#1F497D'> has been updated and is ready for a secondary review. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Please refer to the section
labeled: “<b>Provider Implementation</b>”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Please respond with comments by
end of day, Friday September 11.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:fdo-internals-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Boone<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 06, 2009 9:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> FDO Internals Mail List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [fdo-internals] FDO RFC 34 - FDO Reader Access By Index<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>FDO RFC 34, <a href="http://trac.osgeo.org/fdo/wiki/FDORfc34">http://trac.osgeo.org/fdo/wiki/FDORfc34</a>,
is ready for review. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Please review and respond with comments.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Greg<o:p></o:p></p>
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