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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks to Milton I’ve played
with such problematic dataset. My conclusions are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>The spatial index
file is corrupted. Just remove the *.idx file and it will be regenerated. No
more phantom geometries.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Still, the extents
of the dataset are larger than necessary, accounting for deleted features. This
can be cured but triggering the compressing mechanism (just create a feature,
check it in and then delete it).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>ESRI products have a
problem: they show the deleted geometries as well. Practically they ignore the
“deleted” flag in the DBF file. Not sure at all why they do this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hope this helps,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dan.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Dan Stoica <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 04, 2009 6:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> FDO Users Mail List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [fdo-users] Disappearing Shape File Objects<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Too bad. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The only thing that I can think of is that some geometries are
invalid and turned into NULL geometries. But without a sample I cannot prove
anything.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dan.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Brad Nesom<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 04, 2009 5:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> FDO Users Mail List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [fdo-users] Disappearing Shape File Objects<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>If not mistaken I have seen it with sde data also. Don't
have a way to reproduce now.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Brad<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Dan Stoica <<a
href="mailto:dan.stoica@autodesk.com">dan.stoica@autodesk.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Must be something related to data. Can I
have one of these problematic SHP?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>It’s the first time I hear of such
problem. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Dan.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Traian Stanev<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 04, 2009 3:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> FDO Users Mail List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [fdo-users] Disappearing Shape File Objects</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>You can try opening the SHP file using
the OGR FDO provider instead of the SHP provider to determine if the problem is
due to the SHP provider or due to Map itself.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Traian</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brad Nesom<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 04, 2009 2:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> FDO Users Mail List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [fdo-users] Disappearing Shape File Objects</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Denis,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>
I have seen this also. I always assumed it was the display system. The objects
are actually there they just won't display.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hope
this helps get something started on a fix. I have seen this problem since 2007.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Brad<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On
Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Denis Lalonde <<a
href="mailto:denlalonde@gmail.com" target="_blank">denlalonde@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I posted
this in the Autocad Map3D discussion forum but am not getting any hits.<br>
<br>
With AutoCad Map 3D 2010, when opening most existing Shapefile based<br>
layers, via the FDO shape provider (in the “connect to data…” tool),<br>
many features within these layers are missing or/and randomly<br>
disappear/reappear as I pan and zoom the map.<br>
<br>
All of the problematic shape files show up fine in ESRI products as<br>
well as in MapGuide 6.5....so I assume that they are not corrupt.<br>
<br>
Also, with the latest release of MGOS 2.1, I get the same issue with<br>
unmanaged shape files....as I did with previous releases.<br>
<br>
I am assuming that this is an FDO issue and that both these products<br>
are using the latest DFO version.<br>
<br>
If there is a better place to post this message?<br>
<br>
Any ideas?<br>
<br>
MAP3D 2010 on - New Dell T3500 XP64bit.<br>
<br>
MGOS 2.1 - PHP, IIS, WinSever2003<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Denis<br>
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